So what is happening? Why is this happening Help me to undestand

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So as I m checking all that is happening and I can not understand what is going with all these things. Do people wanna fewer Chores but more content? Also, I need to understand what would be new content for some of the people I have no idea what people wanna more … Cause from what I can see people already crying there is soo many things to do in game, BUT THEY wanna more so explain to me what is THAT more you people want cause for me this is more than I can chew already I don’t know what more can be added…

Next thing This news changes why people are going So mad about it?
what blizzard should make 9.0.0 with all of this ? so we can just play 1 WEEK and then moan NEXT week for more so each week they should keep introducing new patches? what is this candy Crush?

They could remove Conduit energy, add Recycling for legos Sure,
with 9.1 once we did with Story we could get Covenant Swap and not keep doing all Story again all over ofc that could happen, did not happen so WHAT? is a big Deal ? no is not …

If you ask me i think most of you are bored cause now is corona all around us and we are stuck in houses and we can play 24/7 and ofc we do get bored but this is not the time to Make GAME BURN cause of this reasons … If you are not happy with an game stop complain cause that only reflect bad on you as person …

I m not defending blizz at any given point they messed up with The law suits and all but that is not the point that we should Trow a hate and burn the company . Ofc Fire the people that did all of them till the last person is not out . But on the and that is happening in The Companys with over 20 k people that is happening cause EVEN blizzard can not CONTROL EVERYONE BEHAVIOUR .,… if you don’t know how to behave and conduct your self well its personal. that all on that behalf

Asmongold and Beluar if you ask me both them are so Toxic and earning money on banishing blizzard if you ask me both of them should be perma banned and sent a law suit for breaking it cause they earn all Subs in wow not in a FF14.

ON the same topic Why are you people listening them about the game? They are both bad at it the most beluar did is Curve Nothing more Just curve and he have balls to talk about something else , he still does not have +15 Done in time for season 1 /2 KSM and he is talking about it like he is a pro player same goes for asmongold he is claiming he is pro in the game and all he does is Mount and transmong competition nothing else , and he is pro gamer. I don’t mind when top end guild point of the problems cause that People played a game on end difficulty.

That all i have to say i know there is gonna be a lot of support from asmongold Sheeps who thing he is a king but as so far non king Rules 4ever!

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I just want talents that have been dead for 4 years+ fixed and balanced…

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People want new content every 2 weeks or so to keep them “engaged”

They do not want rep or resource grinds.

No “Repeatable” content,

But more like new dungeons, More raids,

new story lines (New storylines, not chapters locked and released week by week)

New classes/races.

Yes, most people ask for unreasonable things, as they do not actually know how long things take to develop

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people usually don’t know what they want. after 20 years of gaming it’s painfully obvious to me that PvE content is extremely short lived and has very little replay value (aside from sandboxes which wow isn’t).
time/grind gating, staggering content is the only way to make people stick around in a game like WoW. it’s not rocket science

designing a single dungeon like tazavesh takes maybe…4 months. it took most people 3 weeks to get bored of it. let’s add 2+2 together…

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Look blizzard is doind now what the community where asking from the the start of SL, Am i a fan of free covenant swapping no because Top guilds are now being priviliged in WF tbh, and imagine how easy m+ is now going to be. The conduit energy is nice tho, Tw legion m+ love it, but we all now why blizzard is doing this DESPERATE move its because of the subs immo. Well FF14 was bad in the beginning and still is immo but ye will see.

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so TLDR, Asmongold and Bellular broke the game :smiley:

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Lets start with more than 8 dungeons…

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i think the main problem that people have is that blizzard are unable to add things to the game without making it “manditory” content, take torghast for example, there are plenty of people that just dont like the gameplay loop as they are not fans of roguelikes, and yet they have to do torghast if they want access to legendaries, there are some people that dont like raiding but feel forced in order to gain certain trinkets or the domination sockets and other such things,

people are looking for content in the game that they might enjoy playing while not have content they dont like feeling manditory.

wether or not someone takes part in endgame/highend content shouldnt define wether or not their opinion is valid, just because someone only clears heroic raid and doesnt do mythic doesnt mean they can have an opinion on how the raid content works in a game,

most of bellulars content for example is complaints about valid issues in the game, one of this more recent clips i saw was complaints about a mage legendary that was bugged or something, they have no fixed the bug meaning its techinically “bis” meaning that now mages will have to farm up gold/other resources to fund another legendary, and now we are about 10 months into the expansion they still havnt put in a system to let us break down old legendaries and recraft them (i know that is no coming in 9.1.5 but its a bit too late)

they have valid complaints and valid opinions wether you agree with them or not isnt really important, you cant just disregard someone whos opinion you disagree with, otherwise no human being would be allowed an opinion

its also worth pointing out that you cant disregard peoples opinion on a game just for them no taking part in certain content, based on current numbers less than 30% of people in the game have completed mythic tarragrue. so you should just completely disregard 70+% of peoples opinions on the game when it comes to PvE content?

there are certain people that just dont enjoy raiding, or dont have the time/schedule to be able to take part in it, some people only play the game solo, and they have a rightful opinion on changes that would have a positive impact on the game for them, just grow up and understand this please

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Wow isn’t what it was in [Insert time where people started playing wow] so its automaticly bad

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That’s what the community expects tho.

Yes, they are that dumb

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nah, it takes them maybee… 5 days and it took people 21 day to get bored of it. Now let’s add X+Y equals Z together

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You seem smart.

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Lemme do what content I wanna do when I wanna do it. Stop implementing c*ckblocks like time gating. Stop forcing everyone to raid (legendary powers, Dom sockets… stuff that EVERYONE needs but is only available in the most niche content).

Stop launching patches and expansion with utterly player unfriendly systems and then ignore cries for fixes for 6 months.

If you REALLY want to force me to do content, make it fun. Outside of the story progression, which I’m sure some people enjoy thoroughly, the Renown campaign is just a mindless time sink. Travel for 20 minutes, click on an object on the ground, grind mind numbingly easy trash mobs for 15 minutes, grind different mind numbingly easy mobs für 20 minutes, travel to the other end of the world, click on 10 items on the ground, walk back to quest giver, click on 5 items in the room.

Command table is equally non engaging, it’s like half a feature with absolutely no way to really engage with it’s rules and learn or become better. There is no feedback at all (without the external addon) how good your “strategy” is, 99% of the missions boil down to 4 support tropps + 1 follower, click optimize, click start. WOW I AM SO ENTERTAINED.

There is plenty to do in WoW, but Blizzard blocks me from enjoying the content I wanna enjoy and the rest of the content is just utterly dull to me in terms of gameplay.

So either make stuff fun or don’t force me to do the stuff that is not fun to me. And stop holding me for a fool by CONSTANTLY implementing time waster content (no enjoyable gameplay, required for progression) and time gating with the obvious goal of prolonging my game time just to fix it to an enjoyable level 6 months later. People aren’t stupid and the melancholy bringing old veterans back again and again only works so often. After the last 3 expansions the feeling of “We COULD have made this more fun, but our data shows you’re gonna stick around longer if we make you wait 30 minutes between every dungeon” just sticks around like grease.

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if you think chores are content we cannot take your thread srsly :smiley:
All these things will make people play the game like they want to play
not as a BLIZZARD DEVS intended to play the game.

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WoW has plenty of content. The big problem is content is retired way too quickly. It’s not that people want new content every other week, it’s that people want to do meaningful and engaging content.

FFXIV right now feels like a bigger game than WoW, mainly because FFXIV doesn’t really retire it’s raids. FFXIV considers its leveling a vital part of the game, the main story quest is the main focus, which is why you HAVE TO do it to unlock access to content and even level up.

In WoW, the main focus is the one raid. That’s why people burn out on content way too quickly. In 9.1 I’ve done Castle Nathria exactly once, to get my frost mage lego. That aside, the only raids I’ve done have been SoD. Why? Why aren’t older raids alive? WoW has SO MANY raids, and so many dungeons and it insists on killing them off.

Timewalking could be better and personally I am rather excited for Legion M+ coming back. This could be a very big change in the right direction.

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More fun content. Chores are a type of content, but they’re a type that isn’t enjoyable to do. Torghast is a chore because I have to slog through it twice a week to get my upgraded legendary, despite it being boring. Make Torghast fun to do and it isn’t a chore anymore.

Yes. We’ve been asking for free conduit swapping since beta. Kaivax said in his post that conduit-swapping limitations were negatively impacting some people and positively impacting nobody. Players have been loudly telling them that since beta. You’re damn right conduit energy should have been gone when 9.0 was released.

Because Bellular and Asmongold, and Preach, and many others, have very considered and detailed analyses of what’s wrong with the game. Whether they’re “pro” doesn’t matter.

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This game could use some sandbox gameplay. Something to fall back on when the current content is done or the expansion is in drought season.

Why havent they implemented anything? Crafting and professions are not fun. Not emgaging, not a mini game - its just click a button basically. A missed opportunity from blizz

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This every two weeks is literally impossible.

This is feasible. But then again people would complain these new storylines are short and worthless. Two-week term is not enough for interesting, long story lines.

Every two weeks? Absolutely not.

Classes… I kind of understand why they aren’t willing to develop more. But we do need to see new classes every now and then (TINKERS, Blizz!).

New races are definitely possible, not sure why they don’t add more every expansion, especially Allied Races. As well as customizations - what Blizz isn’t understanding is that they won’t ever please everyone 100% - AND THAT IS OKAY. That doesn’t mean they’re doing a bad job, it only means that it’s in human nature to want more and keep asking for more. Blizz just needs to keep adding a few customizations every x.5 patch for a number of races and people will be fine with that, regardless of the typical whiners and the “but that was my Barbie, I want my Barbie to be unique” folk.

Back on topic - I am with the OP. I don’t get ppl asking for more content. We have content, you just find it boring. Legion had a very similar content to SL and yet most people loved the expansion.

I just think Blizz overestimated SL’s lore catch. Like, speaking on my behalf only, I don’t find it interesting, I don’t really care for SL lore, and in fact it kind of ruined the afterlife lore for me a bit. I don’t think Covenants make sense, I don’t think “mortal souls” (as in, “souls that can die”) make sense, I don’t think it’s fair souls aren’t free to choose where to go and what to do. I don’t think it makes sense for physical mortals to somehow be present in the spiritual-death plane. I don’t think it makes sense that the afterlife is literally just Earth/Life 2.0. I don’t really care for all these new lore characters we never heard of and that we suddenly have to fight for. I heavily dislike that, and together with the fact that everything’s timegated and everything is to be grinded, it’s just boring.

I wouldn’t mind the timegate/grind if the lore was interesting, if the world as Azeroth, if we were talking about wars between factions/subfactions, lore characters we’re used to see or lore characters we know they exist but to this day haven’t showed up yet (Me’dan? Hello? Yes, don’t throw tomatoes at me please). It’s almost like I’m not playing WoW, but a completely different game with a few characters from WoW ?

With the new changes in 9.1.5 I’m definitely going to enjoy SL much more. Lifting up those restrictions was absolutely necessary, especially for alt makers like me. To this day, I only have 3 characters levelled to 60 (when in Legion I’ve already had them all max level in the second patch).

So to conclude, to me it isn’t “more content”, it’s “more quality”, “more interesting/related to lore we already know or are used to” and “not ridiculously restricted”.

That’s it, basically.

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Yes this is good quality post. I am working human with family and I have no chance to keep up with all the available content. I dont know why ppl cry about covenants and other things.
You cant get all in real life so why do you torture yourself in game by wanting EVERYTHING!!! And for the streamers? You take view of some cellar dwellers as valid opinion? I d prefer to hear opinions of people from the ladders who actually play the game.

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I almost had a stroke reading this