Most of the posts kind of cover what I wanted to say OP I have also got anxiety issues and so on in the game with strangers much the same as I do in real life if I am in a new building I have to know where all the fire exits are and stuff like that it’s no fun either.
As for pug’s if you get really really toxic people and I mean you give them a fair chance to change tack or back off then in some cases it’s best to just leave. The community in this game is dead because the tools that are supposed to bring people together give no sense of responsibility when they do.
People rush through headlong at 90 miles and hour and seem to forget that they are dealing with unique individuals who are all different but because they will likely not meet you again in another PUG it has no baring on them how they conduct themselves or mistreat others. A half hour debuff to me for leaving because I value my mental health more than the views or opinions of a complete bunch of strangers think of me is worth it.
Life is too short to have a game like this make what can be a really hard thing to live with outside of it worse in your down time.
About a month ago a friend and I started a community especially for players dealing with anxiety, and who because of their anxiety couldn’t play dungeons or raids in pugs or in groups with people who don’t understand what it is to suffer from anxiety. We had to stop because of lack of interest, and I really think its a pity that, reading this thread, our paths didn’t cross before
BFA is designed like that. The most clear exemples are timers in mm+ and islands expeditions.
Leveling a character from the latest game extension to the new one has been faster than ever. The endgame is all the game for several years already. The journey is no longer the game and I think it was conducive to discoveries, including the discovery of people.
In addition, I have the feeling (but I’m mistaken perhaps) that over time, daily and weekly content have become easier to do, and therefore to rush.
I came across the game cause a very close family member played WoW (from Vanilla to BC). For me, I began to play in 2014 during a long sick leave. I wasn’t familiar with the state of the game at the time, didn’t know any active player and was looking for buddies.
I was very desappointed at first, in a very tough time. Somehow, I feel related to the op.
In my opinion, players are not the only ones responsible. They are not the ones who decide the design philosophy.
That’s going a bit off-topic, but if everyone is alive, healers generally don’t get shrunk in P1 (they however can become large and stomp everyone if they are not careful). The P2 shrinking is largely irrelevant.
On the rare occasion that I would get shrunk I have a very sweet soul in the person of the GM, who is willing to sacrifice his DPS to use macros like this to help me out. You can chuck that in an OPie and then it only takes up one keybind. I can relay what the other bots have to the raid just fine.
I am not sure what was the point of the question however. It feels mean. Is it an accusation of taking advantage of the guild who let me still progress a boss like that? Looking down on the guild that doesn’t mind cripples, as long as they are capable of playing on appropriate level? Nevertheless, I don’t really like the design of bosses like this that require a lot of voice communication. It is one thing to remind players about impending doom, and another to have to communicate quickly on the fly. I have my entire UI set up in a way that I don’t really need to communicate in the heat of battle. Vast majority of encounters has important healing cooldowns/utilities pre-agreed on the healer chat. It is possible to raid mythic with a slight disability, albeit it is becoming harder in the recent expansions. The guild has a few colourblind people as well and I’ve felt bad for them on bosses like Maiden in ToS (even with my normal sight I think the gold/fel green looked too similar to each other on the swirl prior to orb spawn) or Mekkatorque.
nope, just a curiosity. I mean i know colorblind people have issues with it so when I heard u cant hear, I was wondering how you do colors and all that, since it requires quick communication.
ohh i thought u meant when he jumps down. I lowkey hate that part :(( we did progress to 7% the other day, 4th raid night on this monday so hopefully we kill it pheeeew
Hello there! As someone who is also diagnosed with Social Anxiety disorder, I can give you a little advice and share what worked for me. I just recently got into raiding, mythic and BG’s in Legion, but before that expansion I couldn’t barely even queue up for dungeons without having a massive panic attack. I too struggled with thinking “What if I don’t do good? What if they hate me? What if, what if, what if.” was constantly running in my head. I decided to simply out myself out there. Something that helped me progress was thinking that these thoughts are irrational. I don’t want to argue with an irrational thought, it doesn’t get me anywhere but make me upset and ruin what might be a good experience.
One BG or dungeon a day was a start for me. Reading up on tactics and such as well for raiding also helped me progress a little bit, since then I at least knew that I had read what to do. So if I made a mistake, well alright, I tried. Keep in mind that some people are just toxic, as well. If they spit hate or anger at you, it’s most likely them being irrational.
Keep in mind that this is a long process, so don’t beat yourself up if you can’t do this every single day, or if you just generally have days where the anxiety is acting up more than usual. Every single step, no matter how small is important when it comes to these things.
Best of luck forward!
I found out that this also helped me out a ton. The thing about self talk, is that you have to speak to yourself as if you were a child. I know, it might sound weird, but it’s true. You wouldn’t beat up a child for making a mistake. You would kindly talk to them and reassure them that it’s alright to make mistakes, and that they can become better.
This became kinda long, but I really hope this can help you in some way. Again, best of luck!
Sorry no I’ve been playing nearly 11 years that has never been the way the game should be played in my view and maybe because of my age I don’t rush. It takes any soul out of the game or playing it you do not see how rich the world is or the amount of work the people who make the game put into it. Politics aside how Blizzard is running the game it saddens me that end content is the only concern to most players now.
I started playing at the end of TBC and the world in this game to me was immense it still is there is a lot left for me to do and a lot I enjoy doing I know not all people have the time to sink into the game as I have and I don’t deny that but to not be able to stand back and look at the entire thing and think holy hell this game is immense is pretty sad not to realize. I’ve invested my time taking it slow because the benefits have outweighed the cons by a huge margin.
Each to their own but I think if that’s the way most people play this game now it really shows that Blizzard has lost it’s way massively.
I can relate to you I have the same anxiety problem of not preforming well and not to people’s standard’s and that fear of what will people think of me in-game or IRL and I usually do content with my guild that is like a second family to me I avoid pugs like it’s the spawn of Satan because my anger and fear of not being accepted will start and I will get toxic and tilted and mess up cause of the stress.Thus I communicate with my guild and my b net friends only cause I see people in pugs or any lfg content toxic and weird so I don’t do them I hope you understand now.Of course this isn’t applied as much in IRL i have very close circle of friends and not so many females in my life cause of fear of getting rejected .And many of you will notice on Yolandass being passive agressive I get stressed out
I have a mild diagnosis of Autism.
and a Severe Social Anxiety Disorder!
I’m currently 23 Years old and still live home with my parents FeelsBadMan
I don’t even wanna go outside, the only reason why im going out is to go into my backyard for a smoke
“My Backyard is quite isolated so i can feel kinda relaxed being there”
However i follow mom to the store now and then in hope to work on the Social Anxiety, but after a while i start to sweat and almost feel abit of panic as it feels like everyone’s watching at me.
I do currently seeing someone about this anxiety, but i always have one of my parents with me when seeing him.
It’s really hard to see peoples alone, as im always afraid of what they are about to say.
so ofcourse me being inside all the time, it prevents me from getting a Job also losing all my irl friends as i become to isolated and afraid of the outside world.
So i’m currently living on WoW - Single player games - Anime.
And when it come to socialism online, the only issue i would have is getting friends, i find this extremely hard.
However doing social stuff in WoW ain’t that hard, im usually quiet in groups in LFR - Normal - Bg’s - Old raids for transmog.
But besides that am i more into doing WQ’s by myself.
Whenever peoples adds me, they think im ignoring them or Friend collecting them. which ain’t the case, i just can’t start a conversion as i have no idea what to say, nor how they react, im thinking way to much.
Thank you all for the replies and support, idea’s and links. It’s nice to know that there are people out there that understand how hard it can be and don’t judge others for it, also that i am not alone in my struggle help’s.
Really the goal of the post was to see if there maybe are guild’s or group’s out there that have member’s like myself that people could recommend as they would having experience with people with SAD’s be more patient and tend to be less judgemental.
I think moving forward as Dotsoffun said it’s going to have to be a case of doing something ie pushing myself past my comfort zone and trying to combat my fears or i may aswell stop playing as i’m missing out on so much of the game.
I was thinking of starting with things like LFR and dungeon finder as i dont have to interact to much with others (no discord or voice chat).
Then hopefully if i can desensitize myself enough pugging may become something that i can look to in the future.
My partner has agreed to come back to the game so i will have their support with doing things and they will be my voice until i can become settled enough to feel comfortable in opening my mouth.
Someone asked what it was i was aiming for in wow and to answer that just being able to run mythic plus and maybe low level raiding with some chilled peeps would be amazing but all in good time.
Again thank you so much guys for the replies its much appreciated.
If you want to do mythic+ check out the Calm Keystones community
Having your partner along should be a good rock for you. I also suggest going as tank and healer if you would be comfortable with it because that way you are more in control of the situation. Chasing after lunatic tanks isn’t fun for anyone!
I personally find guilds a little weird, pressure to talk and join in or just become ignored. I like playing solo the most. Communities are likely the better scenario because maybe you will find someone similar and become good friends.
I find online a lot less scary because I don’t have to worry about body language etc, I can take time to form my sentences and ignore horrible people. Sometimes you find toxic people and it upsets you and sets you back, unfortunately that is a fact of life wherever you go. I call it “bubble popping” the bubble I surround myself in is gone and it feels horrible!
Just try to take it slow and don’t put too much pressure on yourself. WoW is meant to be fun, if you’re not having fun then don’t do it.
I just wanted to reach out and thank you for that note. I had anxiety this morning because I messed up a little at work. I sat and tried this and felt loads better. We are too hard on ourselves.
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.And many of you will notice on Yolandass being passive agressive I get stressed out