She is made for 20 dude, our first raid we killed her with 17 guys, no way we could have done that if she was made for a 40man group.
This isn’t the point. I’m not saying she’s hard. I’m saying she has way too much HP and the fight is way too long, which means certain classes don’t get to play the game because they’re OOM ( Mage )
Then invite more people, up to 40 can enter.
That’s how she was designed.
No. She was designed for 20 people. And she has too much HP for 20 people.
She was designed to be killed by 20-40 people the more people the easier but less chance of getting loot…
Read the patch notes again.
She was designed for 20 people, not 20 random scrublords that do the bare minumum. She, like Kazzak and Azuregos, are accessible by groups of up to 40; if you’re struggling then bring more players.
She isn’t overtuned at all, people are easily doing her with less than 20. If she were overtuned, people wouldn’t be 13 manning her.
Onyxia is harder than Ragnaros right now which is insane. You don’t understand Vanilla tuning.
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No she isn’t.
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Ragnaros has a cap of 20 players, Onyxia doesn’t.
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Original Onyxia was actually harder than Ragnaros, she had an annoying threat reset mechanic where Ragnaros didn’t. They also had the same healthpool.
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This isn’t Vanilla
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I understand Vanilla better than you do.
Yes she is.
Onyxia is meant to be tuned for 20 players.
No she wasn’t lmao, you could do Onyxia with 5 players in Vanilla.
Obviously. Also not an argument.
Yeah I really doubt that one. What’s your classic char? Your SoD char?
No,she isn’t.
Tuned for 20 players =/= tuned for 20 random pug idiots. If you’re struggling, bring more people. That is how she was designed.
Again, I can do her with 13-15. If you’re struggling, you are bad.
Yes, she was easy. As was Ragnaros; except Ragnaros never had some random BS threat reduction ability.
Then why did you bring Vanilla up?
My Classic character started off on Firemaw as StephenOrcin. I moved over to Bloodfang after ZG released due to the amount of lag. I then moved to Noggenfogger at the start of TBC and then to Gehennas when Noggenfogger died; where I changed the name of my character to Bigcritbarry and have stayed since; although my guild and I quite WoTLK and moved to SoD the moment it launched.
I’ve done my fair share of rep runs, Onyxia split runs, speed runs and god knows what else. If you struggled with Rag in Classic, you sucked. If you struggle with Onyxia now, you still suck.
Any more questions?
It’s an entry level raid, it should be easily doable by 20 random pugs. Yet pugs are wiping on it all the time.
You can’t do Ragnaros with 5 people. You absolutely can do Onyxia with 5. Rag is way harder.
Well since you didn’t answer it, yeah, I got one.
What’s. Your. SoD. Character.
You’re in entry level gear, too.
If your pugs are struggling, your leadership is bad. If your DPS is too low, bring more players; that is how she is designed.
That’s bad logic.
Onyxia requires each and every person to watch their threat and position themselves away from players; Rag is a glorifies tank and spank fight.
You didn’t ask my SoD character. You asked if my Classic character was my SoD character.
I am Gnomophobia on The Wild Growth realm.
You’re a green parser telling people they’re bad. You can’t make this sh!$ up.
Onyxia requires each and every person to watch their threat and position
No it doesn’t. You just need a tank with threatmeter to tell people when to chill on threat. That’s the whole fight. Onyxia isn’t hard, but she is overtuned in that she has way too much HP.
Yet I’m not struggling with the content that you’re crying about; I’m also running with less than the required people and I’m playing a 2h-only warrior build; which is sub-optimal.
Then why are you struggling?
And that is more than Ragnaros requires; even on SoD.
Also:
https://sod.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/wild-growth/gnomophobia#difficulty=4
Heat level 2: my parses are purple and blue. My Onyxia parse is 83, my Sunken Temple parses were orange, purple and pink.
Try actually viewing the webpage properly next time. If that’s how bad your eyesight is, there’s no wonder you’re struggling with Onyxia.
Absolute monkey.
Yeah you’re struggling with pressing your buttons in the right order apparently.
And yet…
I’m clearing the content without crying about it.
Actually on that note; perhaps you’d like to share your parses with the class?
I’ve cleared both MC and Onyxia. Doesn’t change the fact that Ony is overtuned.
Laughable.
If you’re struggling, bring more people. She was designed so that the ‘lesser skilled’ players could just bring more people to zerg her down.
Says the dude rocking green logs in MC.
Bye.
https://sod.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/wild-growth/gnomophobia#difficulty=4
Heat 2.
Learn to read.