Wtv helps you sleep at night. Tyrathan is a low ranked soldier, Jorad was just a paladin in Arthas army, Mankrir was just a farmer/grunt, Nazgrel was a high ranked soldier, but a soldier still nothing huge, Halford Ramsey was just a detective, Revil was just a priest, Zekhan was another soldier in the horde army and the list goes on. Of the characters I mentioned the only ones with a ‘serious’ rank where Thargas, Radulf and maaaaybe Nazgrel.
No one is contradicting anything, stop chasing around your tail like a mad dog.
So basically you’re agreeing with me that they’ve always focused on some low-ranking soldiers in the past and you interact with plenty of them in the questing experience. Which is literally like my second post in this thread.
You…what? What i’m saying is that I pref lower-middle ranked characters in the spotlight or if not, more stories of them. Again, in case you missed it I said I want to get to know the FIGHTER (the exceptional fighter and his journey to become exceptional), not the leader. I want the group of adventurers who went in deadmines and slaughtered Van Cleef ( who was a good guy) , I want the footman who fought his way up from a mere recruit to a sergeant or a knight! The warriors journey
This is so true, i’d love to have lets say a new recruit with a few quest here and there climb the ranks of his faction depending on where you play and your character to grow with him. I was for example a big fan of Nazgrim, and really sad when we killed him. Not because he was such a big-shot, but because we knew him for years by the time of the Siege of Orgimmar and had experienced much with him.
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Exactly like Nazgrim and Taylor. Personally I do want a hotshot since i’m a sucker for the classic human warrior poster boy that every fantasy setting has(Not to mention they killed Varian), but still we are in the same boat.
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This. So much
We had Nazgrim and Taylor and their respective journey took a lot of the spotlight from one expansion and one entire zone from the first so that might be a reason why we don´t see that simple setup again.
Second problem i see with this is automatically that at a certain point these low ranked People have to become important in any way. Look at Nazgrim and Taylor one was sacrificed as a raid boss and the other well got a worse treatment story wise but was at least promoted to Garrison Commander.
So if Taylor was still around he could have easily replaced Wyrmbane or an alliance Champion in BFA but then you run the same problem you dislike he is no low ranked anymore.
Third thing is the story of the rising Soldier is kinda limited to begin with there are not many differences you can weave into them.
Again i don´t have a problem with what you want and can understand that but if i have to choose since spotlight in WoW narrative is limited. I´d rather see more about the already established Characters and how they grow than some new no names while the Warcraft high rollers conveniently go missing while the World is burning… looking at you Jaina and Thrall.
Luckily with good Story designers new characters and old ones are not mutualy exclusive. There is always the opportunity to grow a new character in the shadow of a big shot like Nazgrim under Garrosh.
With the Draka topic i just want to say to close this out we should simply wait what her role will be and her importance and necessity.
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Side note: I’d have rather raised Taylor instead of Nazgrim to be my Horseman. He looks so out of place as an orc.
And I think 4 new horsemen were completely pointless.
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I have my own four horseman, silence.
i disagree, but that’s just personal taste 
Would have been cool if Alliance Dks raised Taylor and Horde Nazgrim considering you interacted with Taylor a lot as Alliance Char but not so much with Nazgrim. Raid Encounter aside.
Or even better if they offered you the option similar to DHs who either got Akama or his Shade. Mograine could have told you that there are two amazing First Horsemen Candidates to choose from. But this was the DH Expansion so no special treatment for other classes.
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Well, it’s pretty balanced as it is, with whitemane and darion being non-alliance humans, Trollbane being Alliance and Nazgrim being Horde. I think it’s a bit “human-centric” but that’s fine in my oppinion, because Humans should lorewise be the vast majority of death-knights.
This is why I wanted Taylor (or someone else). Obviously there are exceptions of course, but the Scourge and undead overall has always been a huge part of the human story. Albeit shared with QT elves.
I understand where you are coming from, but still think 3/1 is fair, if you take into account that during WotLK the Horde was as involved in taking the LK out, as everyone else.
I have no problem with any of the Horsemen and what you two said but i think in the Case of the Dk Order Hall campaign and Deathlord literally running around creating new DKs the rule of Humans being the majority of DKs would not apply.
I mean technically the Player could have resurrected Nazgrim, Cairne, Fandral and I don´t know Kael´thas or so and use them as Horsemen.
This is why Nazgrim and Taylor were great, aswell as the Legion Order Halls having their separate stories with a large cast.
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I think that DK order campaign was a massive let down. They didn’t have the greatest dk of all time in there - Abu’gar.
DK that decided to spend his unlife on fishing.
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It was my favourite by far, DH second.
Then trash tier Warrior right at the very bottom, several hundred feat underground in a landfill.
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Some of it was lorewise bad though….I mean the Earthen Ring one rubbed me the wrong way.
I had some issues with the Druid one…and don’t get me started on the homogenization in the Priest and especially the Paladin order hall lore….
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