I know what’s it like. To log in, open LFG only to find boosters and unsuitable teammates that even when they invite you, will leave after one game only to end up waiting with your listing open for 2 hours straight before logging off.
I had been feeling like this for a while and thought that by leveling an alt, a healer that people would find a better partner I would actually get to play. Unfortunately for me, little did I know how horrible and stressful of an experience is playing on an alt at the moment.
Then I gave up and went to other games and I can tell y’all, Solo Queue will not fix the frustration of boosing, unbalanced PvP, wall requirements and save any time. Best it can do is turn it into a selective skirmish. People will eventually head back to LFG in order to create comps that give them an advantage and abuse that. Afterwards we’d have the problem ‘Can’t swallow playing against meta comps anymore in Solo Queue’ unless they do 2 different MMR brackets. But then, the problem is still the class balance and not the system.
Do you believe you would spend as much time in LFG now if there wasn’t such things as:
versatility requirement
cr requirement
xp requirement
ilvl requirement
spec requirement
‘I just want to play the game’ argument will eventually be dropped here as people will eventually stop playing Solo Queue being matched up with characters with less gear than the ‘standard’ requriement for a good PvP experience and it will eventually beome a skirmish fiesta.
Blizzard has forced players into demaning this requirements in LFG due to their horrible game design and class inbalance. It has nothing to do with boosters, lack of solo queue but the huge gap difference between ilvl 200 and ilvl 220+.
If a lot more classess and specs were on par with the current PvP ‘kings’ then it would become a more acceptable envoirment. If stat difference was not a huge factor then people would not have to spend 90% of their time grinding for what they actually want to do in the game.
No they don’t it’s just players who only want to trade up with their arena partners.
Like a 1.6k player will sit in LFG then another 1.6k player signs up and says ‘‘hi want to play?’’ and the guy who made the post just thinks ‘‘subhuman filth i deserve better i am only 1.6k because of trash like him’’ and continue searching for a 2.8k gladiator on an alt to join his group for ez rating
Solo queue is the only way to alleviate this because when you press queue you get put into a group with a person who is as good as you are at the game, period. And whether or not you agree with the computer is irrelevant.
LFG fosters this mentality of ‘‘i deserve better’’ that can’t be solved any other way than to either reprogram the brain of every human being or let a computer match you with and against people of equal determined skill.
No WOD gearing alone wont fix the problem alone either because real problems are laziness, greed, supply demand imbalance.
People want to climb so they want any advantage they can get and they wont stop.
They will prefer 1ilv or 100 xp or FOTM class.
They will write some bs like link xp and cr even when they write low cr in their group title.
That is how retarded humanity is, expects to find people with 2k xp and low cr to get himself out of low cr.
Main issue is supply and demand in this game. People are lazy and dont want to lead so there is low supply and high demand as a result you dont get invited at all and people check for any ach, xp or ilv advantage they can get on their group.
Dont get me started on healer supply demand imbalance aswell. I apply 20 groups to get invited to one RBG while my disc priest friend gets invited any time he presses.
Solo Que will fix following
-Individual skill will matter more than setup
-People wont be forced to play versus those low skill meta setups exclusivly
-Gruesome time process to form group will be eliminated
-You wont be prevented to play and become better
-You wont deal with people with mindset to leave after first lose (which is 99% of community) sadly
-Boredom: playing vs same meta setups over and over not only feel cheap, but its boring , game is supposed to be fun not boring
-Boosters will have no reason to play SoloQ (nothing to boost there)
Well if solo Q ever live, blizzard will need to make minimum gear requirement to enter, I say its 215 at least, because it will be automatic lose if 25k hp guy join some team, it will also create elo hell in low ratings if people start to use rated soloQ to gear their fresh alts, thats why minimum gear requirement is mandatory there.
I must agree with you all BUT what you’re hinting at is how to Solo Queue can fix some of the LFG issues currently instead of looking into WHY these issues exist in the first place. Solo Queue, as good as it sounds, and as good as some games might do having it, would only serve as a temporary bandage due to how the gear works right now and how horrible the game balance is.
Supply and demand isn’t the case here since a lot of people play classes and specs that aren’t meta and can’t play due to players not wanting to play with them.
Solo queue would actually bring a lot of people up in rating too, as the people with gear would be able to climb fast in the solo queue, leaving equally geared players to fight it out at the lower ratings until they breach a point > get to upgrade higher ilvl > rinse repeat.
Tbh I just wanna do some quick arena’s with a healer without the wait to look for a group on my cr range or being on the waiting list for alot then ending up to be declined. While im doing that I cannot do anything in the game, not even que in bg’s.
For that reason I’m with soloQ. Also I’d like to see a return for selecting 3s skirmishs. I just wanna play the game man. It is boring to manage to look for people and I don’t cummonicate vocaly in game. I just like to play it without all the headech. If I played with a good a group in randoms then we can cummoncate and manage a vocal games. It is a really nice addition to the game imo. the game at the moment has became a big waste of time waiting to play rather than playing.
You gonna be flamed by people who struggle getting 1400 rating because that;s the kind of people who keep crying for solo rated queue,and forums are filled with them.
Why do you think why pro players aint posting on these forums?
Because forums at the current state are filled with people crying over certain things (pvp forums at least) no one in their sanity wouldn’t want to degrade themselves and post on the same forums 1400 cr tryhards are posting.
But the mmr would make those people sink to the bottom right? And full mythic players will spike to the top or wherever their skill can carry them with that gear? Now people can manipulate mmr to fight people at 1k mmr while using gladiator gear. In soloQ they would spike to the top and stay there. Ofc they could force losses at high mmr by refusing to play, but they would not be able to get straight into smurfing. And I am sure blizzard can make an algorithm that measures participation somewhat in higher brackets and just ban those players.
Solo queue will fix nothing given alot of the wow players are meta slaves as it is and most people leave after 1 loss / will get angry after said 1 loss /stop using it.
The only real LFG problem is at higher rating rather than lower rating, unless your trying to do something like queue in the middle of the week at 2 AM (people are usually probably sleeping by then duh)
Solo queue will have completely different meta than premade 3s because the easiest specs that require least setup will be good. Also people will get flamed for playing specs that need setup or ramp up. That’s why I don’t think solo queue is a good idea for 2s or 3s. Unless there are two separate ratings for solo and premade it’s not going to work and even if it will 90% of the community will play solo because they are absolutely asocial and toxic and can’t find 2 people to play with anyway and premade queues would take ages to find games. That’s why when people ask for solo queue I say yes but 5v5s.
Meta =/= skill, boring to play against, loses feel cheap, look it like that: people get enough of meta, its obvious that in WoW 80% is setup, 20% is skill, people want to be 80% skill 20% setup, solo que is currently only thing which can provide this to people… Overal people want fairplay, and meta isnt fairplay, better just not wins…
Solo queue will allow tank and healer specs also? And since it is only 1v1 dampening will start after 15 minutes, and increase by 1% every 30 sec after it begins.
Solo queue is a bad idea if you lock certain specs out of it.
I dont think healers would queue for solo Q. Why would they? To get paired up with a lonely damage dealer who is convinced he’s low CR because system is trash and he doesnt have his own pocket healer, no thanks
A) There’s almost no incentive to drop MMR in Solo Queue other than to “smurf”
B) If they implement a Solo Queue report system where you can easily and accessibly report players for pre-determined reasons such “toxicity”, “afk farming” etc and then they run algorithms on the people reporting (so that people don’t spam report people they just don’t like etc) and the people getting reported. Works well in many other games, I can just take Rocket League as an example because that’s the game I play. People being toxic or doing shady stuff get banned / muted left, right and center.
Lol you missed the most importent thing… if you got a soloque system you can play a bunch of games and when you find a good grp you invite them after to play with for a while, that would make finding people much easier.