Solo Shuffle is the reason wow pvp is dying and it needs to be changed to a singular round

Yes it’s true it’s the most accessible form of PVP

yes it’s true that it’s easier to sit in a que then it is to go through the LFG

HOWEVER

A MASSIVE MASSIVE MASSIVE HOWEVER

Solo Shuffle design is extremely toxic and although I am not saying it should be outright removed. IT NEEDS to be changed into a SOLO ARENA EXPERIENCE

i understand why you originally thought 6 rounds was the best format because you are essentially making a mini tournament allowing everybody to play with everybody however this design is fundamentally flawed and is going to drive away players from PVP, causing a lower level of partipation which ultimately shuttles more people into solo shuffle as there isn’t enough player-base for anything else and you end up with each passing season less and less players wanting to play solo shuffle thus NOT PLAYING PVP

The 6 round format doesn’t work because of the reason below

  • The game is designed around communication and comp build up. Solo shuffle does not abide by these rules so if you play a spec that requires communication and comps to thrive, you will have a far more difficult and subsequently toxic time
  • The format creates longer ques as 6 players will ultimately be out the que from 10-30 minutes as opposed to being out the que for 2-5 minutes
    *- The format favors FOTM specs more than usual arena given the easier time you have as a solo player, the easier the process is because not all classes are built equally
  • The MMR format does not work with 6 rounds as 2:4 should have the exact same loss as you would gain if you won 4:2 and visa versa with 1:5 vs 5:1 however this is not the case due to individual MMR being an issue.

You need to move the PVP mode to a single round that way a bad lobby isn’t as much as a problem. Down times won’t be anywhere near as big as ques duration will be cut by 80% and given the singular round means the MMR system will far more in line with 2v2 and 3v3 allowing a more progressive game play.

Also the 10-60 minute ques to get into a lobby that is terrible for you which often results in whispers and negative feedback / toxic remarks is only fueled by the fact you’ve just lost 60 rating on a 2:4 been massively flamed and now have to sit through multiple 10-60 minute ques in hopes you’ll have 2x 5:2 games to counter the negatively of a single 2:4.

Now class design is a major issue due to the all the mobility, micro CC and damage however a simple fix of moving SOLO SHUFFLE INTO SOLO ARENA would drastically reduce if not eliminate the vast majority of the toxic pvp experience.

disagree with me all you want but numbers back me up. Shuffle S1 was booming due to the inflation and S2, S3 are reducing every single week with S4 looking to be the most dead season unless they bring forward solo rbg

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Solo shuffle is a meme game mode and has no value anyway
Solo queue should’ve ALWAYS been the same as normal RBGs

I don’t know who is taking care of both PvP balance and PvP content but they need to be replaced.
Anyone being silly enough to try to improve the game mode doesn’t get it
You don’t improve because you “play well” You improve because you can play decently with randos, and that applies to your mates as well if they suck with others, they will suck with you
You could be a R1 / Glad and be hardstuck at 1k6 because nobody ever understand your burst windows and or kill timings
Hell even I reached 1k8 while barely paying attention.

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They should atleast test this one round thing. Faster ques lower the stress like 99,9%.

If people would see Soloq be on the same level as random BG they maybe would not be so toxic

Everytime funny if i have a fresh char and start q soloshuffle because it gives fast conquest and people on ultra low raiting start flaming each others

Sure sherlock on our fresh chars with 0 games played we are not playing like blizzcon finalist and all player make tons of missplays

ques would be faster but time sitting in que would be the same.

if you play 6 rounds(games) at once and wait 30 mins inbetween or if you wait 5 minutes between every game is basically the same thing.

I dont think 6 format is necassary bad. Its more fair and i kinda like having different matchups with the same people in one lobby.

If ques would be 5 to 10 mins on average it for dps the gamemode would be fine. They just need to adress:

  1. healer mmr. Playing against lower mmr heaklers should not happen.
  2. making healer specific rewards (good ones). People would play for transmog, gold, mounts and titles or atleast try it out. Maybe some stick to it even after achieving their cosmetic award.

just remove this mode.

Just remove it. It’s off-putting alone waiting 20-30 minutes for a pop.

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Solo shuff is amazing.

you guys are just salty and want your 3v3 , 2v2 boost community back

sorry not sorry :slight_smile: :dracthyr_hehe_animated:

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The typical Addiez nonsense.

Yes, shuffle needs to be reworked but its not killing wow PvP and the format itself is fine. They just need to fix the mmr system and make it more rewarding, not less.

Said no-one ever.

i literally just said it

Could have been sarcasm… :tipping_hand_man:

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