If you are reading this, i would like to share my opinion about solo shuffle.
I came back to WoW 1-2 weeks ago after i stop playing in 9.0, so far i really enjoy solo shuffle its a great mode for learning and farming honor while getting practice in 3v3 arena scenario, the 6 round idea is excellent and really makes the experience very fun for me. I personally cant wait for ranked solo shuffle and i think it would be my primary ranked mode together with 2v2, thanks for bringing this mode up and please continue developing it also please add soloQ Ranked BGs.
Have a great day!
Edit: also please consider adding 2v2 solo Shuffle
then just remove the tanks from that bracket. Tanks makes this whole thing cluster and unfun. Every time an tank is involved in arena games everyone else has way less fun^^
So far i didnt played against any tank in solo Shuffle but i agree that tanks are not balanced for arena pvp at all, so they should be restricted from it or balanced for it
probably cause you que as healer its only heal 2x dps vs heal 2x dps
if you ahve tanks its tank 2dps vs tank 2dps.
And this is mostly guardian druids doing ton of dmg(even outdpsing dmg dealers) and beeing unkillable. Or Prot warrior dealing tons of dmg aswell while beeing not as immortal as guardian but still unkillable compared to any other dps class.
solo shuffle is complete trash.
Why?
because everyone will just focus and unload everything they have on the lowest geared player.
Most games end within 20 seconds by just one tapping the low geared dude. Coordinating cc to save that player is of course not really possible.
game mode would be really fun if everyone was just scaled to max gear or everyone scaled down to the same level. But like it is implemented now, it is just a clown fiesta
Gear is a general problem not specific for solo shuffle and at the moments the mode is unranked so there is no rank nor gear score/ilvl involved in the matchmaking same as random BGs and skirms, so the argument “solo shuffle is bad because of gear” is not very relevant to the mode it self in my opinion but the general state of all unranked modes, even in ranked the gear difference is a problem. Thats one of the reasons so many people wanted MoP/WoD gearing system which will lower the gearing difference which will impact all pvp modes in a positive way and make all of them more competitive based on the players skill, not their gear.
And if you ask me i would remove pvp gear ranks in general and leave just 1 pvp set obtained by honor and remove grinding in pvp for gear (except the initial honor set) because pvp should be about skill in my opinion.
certainly.
Bgs will be incredible boring without gear, but you could get carried and hide and afk somewhere.
In solo shuffle you will be mowed down. In skirms, even though you die instantly, maybe you will get carried because game doesn’t end after 1 person died.
solo queue in any form or any matter needs gear scaling and not to a min threshold but a general point where everyone has the same ilvl. Even 1 ilvl difference is terrible already.
people want mop/wod gearing because it is the lesser evil.
Nothing about MoP or WoD gearing is any good either. It is just better than all the other trash we had.
13 ilvl difference (or how much?) is still terrible and just not necessary. PvP is nothing to play for gear progression, this is just a general dumb take. also with their trash tier balancing, it is necessary to rotate specs or classes on a patch base or even once gear got upgraded, so it starts all over again. On top of the ilvl difference, there is also this dumb take on gear time gating with conquest points. Absolutely not necessary.
Make 1 honor set.
Conquest set just cosmetic option (rating gating, nobody cares, whatever do what you want)
there, we have balance. Yes we still have to do gear progression through afk bgs and alting without gear is still horrible but that would be a compromise that most people could accept.
Of course it would be even better if we just get ilvl scaling in all pvp content. and NO not the trash templates that we got in legion.
your gear will just be scaled up in ilvl and keep all the secondary stats.
Super easy to implement. They just don’t want balance because of MAUs
that is really unfortunate. PvP does not need gear progression to keep people hooked unlike pve
exactly thats what i am saying too, the problem is not the mode it self but gear …
exactly , same thing i suggested above. I really dont understand the logic behind grinding for pvp gear … you are a punching bag when you dont have pvp gear so its not fun at all for both sides when a full geared person meet an undergeared one , because there is no challenge you win by just a pure stats difference … Gear progression is not for PvP , because PvP should be about skill and collaboration in my opinion.
totally understandable ,gear was the main reason i left back in 9.0
Pretty sure it’s ranked. I don’t know if it’s used for matchmaking, but I’m pretty sure it’s ranked at least. WoW Arena Logs is scraping up data from solo shuffles showing rating for each character, and it changes in accordance to rounds won/lost, instead of it changing from winning 3 or more rounds or not.
Blizzard did say they’re using solo shuffle as a means to test the viability of their idea, so it’s not exactly strange for them to slap on a hidden rating to see how it behaves for everyone doing the solo shuffles, under the hood where people aren’t aware of it.
Also, for the record, the ratings shown in WoW Arena Logs after solo shuffles has no relation to any rating in the regular rated brackets.
It’s hard to explain exactly how it behaves in a post like this, but if you’re curious about it then I’d suggest trying it out for yourself, to anyone who reads this.
There is no rating in it mate its just a test for the real ranked which will come in next expasion. Thats why it is under the tab of unranked pvp not in the ranked section.
So there might be some mmr attacked to it for test purposes but its definitely hidden in game
I wouldn’t go so far as to claim there’s actually a matchmaking rating involved. Only said there might be. But there’s rating, probably. And yes, it’s hidden as explained above.
If you’re curious about it, just try out the app for yourself. WoW Arena Logs.
Solo Shuffle is better than I expected, mixing up teams every round makes it fair and a good way of playing some arena without spending time to find or create a group.
It is one of the good additions made in Shadowlands and there are already only a few of those goods.
Solo Shuffle =
But I still don’t think it would work competitively, perhaps should be tried first to see what kind of result there will be.
I wouldn’t necessarily go that far. There are pretty severe class differences causing a bad luck of the draw to cause bad comps for one player, while all of the others gets good comps as long as they’re not teamed up with that one player.
We all know strengths of comps varies, and some requires it being played in a certain way to display that strength or else it falls down one or two tiers in the “rankings” of comps.
But there are some that can get such bad luck in solo shuffle that it makes the player the odd one out that will basically only get 0-1 wins during those 6 rounds, because there’s a severe lack of peels or offhealing or CC or whatever.
I’d argue it’s dysfunctional as a concept, especially in a competitive environment. It’s great if you’re playing on a char that’s fotm though, then you can practically carry and pretty much never lose more than 3 rounds, if even that.
Addons like sArena and omnicd (cd tracking for teammates) dont work properly yet. Stuff like that needs to get fixed before they release a rated version.
its only heal 2x dps vs heal 2x dps