Hi, some people are doing it to get an advantage in gold, is this legit or not? Some people, for example, are proud of themself and brag on discord cause they do hundreds of millions in this way.
Now the question is it against T&C or not? cause they keep doing it.
Why would realm transfers be against the rules? If they have the money or gold to transfer their entire gbank filled with mats to another realm why does it matter to you?
cause they are destroying the economy of low pop realms, imagine buying 100000 callous hides in a high pop realm for 500 gold and selling them for 1.2k in a low pop realms.
You earning 70m gold with this with only 1 item.
Rumors are this is “manipulating the economy” and permaban for it at least on what they are saying in reddit. People got banned for it but is not clear.
Dont kid yourself.
Blizzard makes real life cash on the character transfers. You think they are going to stop this?
Yes guild transfers are a legitimate service offered by Blizzard
I know guild transfer is legit but this is should be considered abusing the service or why do you explain people got permaban for this?
I’m not talking about transferring a guild normally, I’m talking about trasfering it several time with the purpose of manipulating the economy.
(edit, also the title of the thread to make it clear)
@zcerlise, it doesn’t matter if it was the case the will are not banning bots (where they can earn a lot more You know)
There no rules against this you expect people not to abuse that ?
AFAIK, it’s not against the T&C.
A max level character can transfer with at most 1,000,000 gold. Which is quite a lot, but not really enough to do any damage on the average server.
Whether it’s actually profitable to do this, i.e. the gold income pays for enough subbed months that the saving covers the transfer there and back… maybe? The character could come back with 1m in raw gold, which is 4-5 tokens.
Seems like a viable money making strat, but you’ll need enough gold to begin with that you’d make a solid million in profit on the sales. It’s unlikely that lots of players are doing it, most likely a small number.
Are they though…? Because I transferred OFF a low pop realm because everything was so expensive. If someone bulk imports a stack of herbs and flask prices drop, from my perspective that’s probably a good thing.
If people don’t get banned for buying all the Nightshade and re-listing it at 3x the price, they won’t get banned for importing goods to a smaller realm. There’s plenty of manipulation already going on in broad daylight. I honestly don’t see how moving goods to another server is worse.
I actually find the whole idea to be a fascinating mirror of real life. Supplier realises that they can make back their shipping costs by buying local and selling remotely and turns it into a business model.
It seems since according to Reddit they got permaban for doing so but as you know can’t be proven so I’m asking Blues if it against T&C or not.
Reason “manipulation the economy”.
It’s not the million of gold the problem but the items you can transfer easily worth of 100milions in bags/banks.
There are no rules to prevent people bringing mats across to other realms. The entire purpose is that you can move your guild bank with you.
But they have to get that money back to their realm, assuming they don’t want to live on the smaller one forever (which would be an odd choice since most people move to higher pop realms).
And it’s unlikely that there will be goods that make a profit in the other direction, so they’ll have to come back with raw gold.
Which is capped at 1 million; for a level 60 character and for a guild bank.
So each 1 million profit costs two character transfers (there and back), which is about 3 months of sub per round trip. A million gold will get you about 4-5 months of game time, so the net profit per trip is only 1-2 months game time, or under half a million.
Rough maths, could easily be wrong, but it’s good to try to quantify the operation being discussed, I think 
It is not capped at 1 mill. I just recently transferred guild with 4 million in the bank
Yes and this why I created the Topic, why some people are banned for manipulating the economy? I personally know people doing it hundreds of times without problems.
wrong, you can transfer 1-time LVL 10 toons 1 time make a toon on the second realm, transfer the second going on.
Accumulating gold in a bank and transfer them when it’s capped, saving 50-55%.
So if you are moving 10m of mats, and spending 1000k for transferring…
It’s true that you can make an expendable level 10 to take mats over; but the gold cap for a level 10 is very low; just 3000.
So to get that gold back to the origin realm, you need to be moving level 60s, or the guild bank.
Unless there is a known mechanism for doing it cheaper that I’m unaware of? I can’t see how you could get around the gold cap…
Do you have a source on this at all ?
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So if you are moving 10m of mats, and spending 1000k for transferring
You need to be GM of a guild for atleast 10days before you can move it and the guild can only carry X amount of gold anyways .
Gold it’s irrelevant, the only thing they move are materials worth of millions in the bag, for example, they can move 100000 heavy callouses in bags and 0 gold between bags and bank.
Or 100 mounts if you prefer.
And move back the guild months later.
well I can’t write here names but even popular people on the wow economy cummunity got ban on accounts for doing so. You can search on reddit or google.
Not a big problem, you can be a gm of a guild at lvl 1 and move it later or even months when it’s full.
I thought the goal was to make money on a big server by buying materials (cheaper), moving to a small server, then selling them for more? At which point you… have a lot of gold, in an economy where materials are more expensive. What do you buy that’s then at least equivalent value on your home server when you transfer back?
Stuff off the Black Market Auction House, maybe? Since that’s realm-specific, you’ll have less competition on a smaller realm to buy rare items.
Or, for expensive mounts like Long Boi or the Legion spider, the gold cost is the same no matter the realm and they are usable on all your characters. So you could buy those with the gold you’d accumulated on the low pop realm.
Seems like a crazy amount of effort to get gold, but then I’m not a gold maker so who am I to say what others find fun? 
Until i see offcial word from blizzard i take what is writtern on Reddit with a pinch of salt .