Spellpower rogue

Couldn’t find any reliable information about how rogue’s poison really work. Does it scale from spellpower or AP or doesn’t scale at all?
Rogues whose main source of damage is poisons, sounds very cool and unusual, so i want to know if it is viable or not.

doesn’t that depend on the spec?

No it doesn’t, was a private server thing it worked with spell power/nature. Doesn’t on live servers though, there’s a big post on US forums about it. Been tested and adds no damage.

Looks like it works with spell damage DEBUFFS, don’t hold me to that though.

wonder what other specs we will see in tbc classic

Wrong it was working on vanilla back then aswell idk however for how long and when or if it was patched out

I read it was fixed in 3.0.2 but many people say that it doesn’t work in tbcc. So I have no clue what to believe.

Yes but I am speaking about maximizing poison damage by gear.

You can’t.

Other than certain items that add poison damage of their own (e.g. Romulus Vial), or set-boni that influence them directly, gear doesn’t change the damage of a rogues poisons.

The interaction with spellpower was a common bug on private servers, it never worked in actual WoW.

You mean poison doesn’t scale even with attack power, like it works in wotlk? I know that this was added in 3.0.2 instead of scaling from spellpower, so i think it worked in tbc, but will it work in tbcc, thats the question. I need some proofs to get sure, cause different people say different things about when and where it actually worked.

It wasn’t added “instead” of anything.

Rogue poisons never scaled with +spellpower, not in Vanilla, not in Vanilla TBC. They scale with +%magicdmg effects on the target, because poisons are technically nature damage, but they don’t benefit from +spellpower gear on the rogue.

If anyone disagrees, please link your sources. I have searched alot and could find nothing about it. Afaik, the myth that there ever was a spellpower scaling, originated from some PServers, where it was a result of an Error in the code.

The reason why an AP scaling was introduced with WotLK was because Assassination was (finally) reworked into a viable spec, and having its dmg scale badly from the primary power-metric of a rogue, would have been a balancing nightmare.

spell power rogues and hunters was very much a thing, I’ve played them both back in the days, when a video of a hunter vent viral.

If you google spellpower rogue, you can find many new videos explaining the spec.

SP-Hunter was a thing, SP-Rogue wasn’t.
A Hunters Arcane shot and Serpent Sting did, and do, scale with + spellpower equipment.

A rogues Poisons don’t.

I can find a lot of videos explaining a spec that existed on private servers. I can’t find a single video showing me a working example of a spellpower Rogue on Vanilla or Vanilla TBC servers.

Again: if you disagree, show me some proof.

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only thing you are proving is how private servers had things incorrecly .

This actually sounds convincing. I tried to check everything again and found that there are no proofs of spellpower rogue ever exsted on Blizzard servers.
This makes me cry D:

Yeah I’m on about for tbc. Worked in vanilla and from what I’ve read on comments from original classic it was patched out before tbc.

No it didn’t.

Please link me a single video showcasing a Vanilla Spellpower rogue, on official servers. Show me a description on a credible source from back in the day.

Show me a source that it doesn’t? Best I can see is forum posts from 2005 saying it does. God knows how legit they are I really don’t care that much lol.

Feel safe in saying poison never scaled with spellpower in live.

By contrast things like shadow oil and weapon procs did scale in Vanilla, but were progressively nerfed in various ways because it wasn’t seen as intentional. So its hard to say what should or shouldn’t have been there in a 1.12 forever Classic - and generally why lots of spellpower build speculation was found it to underperform versus what it should theoretically do.

Don’t have to.
Onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat.

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