In BFA spirit beasts were in a very good state. Bad for arena however great for duels. They now don’t have their purge and the heal seems to heal for practically 30% of what it used to which makes them complete garbage for any type of PvP.
You now have the purge on your own bars it’s called tranquilizing shot so now you are not confined to a spirit beast / bat for a purge.
Spirit beasts where never best for duels 1vXs bgs or Arenas it’s been the raptor due to master call and the mortal wounds effect porcupine I think was good for the spirits if I remember right and so was the hyena (non exotic)
Spirit heal is fine what you’re seeing and why it seems so innaffective is due to the burtsy nature of pvp right now, pair it with raor of sacrifice
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I am well aware of the tranq shot changes. You gotta understand that them giving it to all specs comes with a price. Also, how is master’s call/mortal wounds better than purge/30-40% life heal in duels? I don’t think you did many duels else there is no way you would say that.
And nah, the heal is really not ok.
Ehhh… poor lost soul.
Anyway, again, tranq shot is a purge, why would you need the pet to do it now when you can do it directly. And if you need to understand why MS is better than a purge you already have on your bars then you need to re-think. 
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In the past Spirit Mend was either too weak (Legion) or too strong (BFA). It’s currently healing me for 3,642 in total which seems pretty weak again. Guess next expansion it will be buffed again 
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Do I really need to explain that by them giving us baseline tranq we lost on other potential things we could’ve had instead? And actually thinking MS is better than spirit mend in BFA makes ya completely braindead. I dueled for the entire s1 and s2 of BFA outside SW and reached 2.2k and there is no way MS is better than spirit mend unless ur duelling a healer.
I thought I was imagining things for a while, then checked the tooltip on Spirit Mend lol they nuked that bad boy into the ground, it’s absolutely useless as it stands atm.
Horrible change.
With Hunter having Tranq Shot again opens up new comp options in arena as now we will be able to purge. It was horrible relying on my pet to purge as often the pet wasn’t in range to cast it in time. Glad we have Tranq Shot again tbh.
Talking about reaching 2.2k then talk about duels. Make up your mind.
Yeah it was 66% nerf total, reads on patch notes… yikes.
Holy moly lol!
That’s not a nerf, that’s a delete 
No wonder I felt something was way off with my Spirit Beast 
I checked my Spirit Beast heal up against a pet with leech, and they were pretty much the same 
guess I’m going with raptor in Shadowlands.
Never heard of spirit beasts have been used in pvp before. Spirit beasts are good for pve content, like m+ and raid for self heal. Cunning pets are better for pvp due to their wound, immunity and speed buff effects.
For arena yes but but in BGs a Spirit Beast kept you going for way longer in a fight.
Mortal wounds are more valuable in bgs anyway so is masters call, you’ll have a healer and shouldn’t be solo and masters call will also free flag carries and healers from death that your spirit heal could never heal through.
Ultimately whatever works for you is the best option and your own play style
Yep it is garbage, even the dps sucks. They nerved the class and nerved it and nerved it and nerved it.
I play sinds vanilla and hunter is not even close as where it was. There is no fun in pvp hunter sinds pandaria anymore.
You can’t rely on healers in random bg, too often they only heal themselves or their friends. Spirit beast let you facetank any melee to death in first seasons of bfa.
The. BM hunter in general at the start of bfa could facetank anything it’s why they where nerfed.
In the first seasons of wrath and the back end of tbc we where very strong mana drain in arena and bgs, even worked on some bosses but we arnt there anymore just like we are not at the start of bfa anymore
Just saying, i saw almost every hunter using spirit beasts in bg at the start of bfa instead of any cunning/ms pet.
And yeah i know why they nerfed it, so people would use other pets too, just not sure if 66% nerf was abit overkill.
I agree I think time will tell, when numbers where run the 66% sounded a lot but when calculated against current hp pools it was the same amount.