Yes it has become a theme now. I can’t stop counting the amount of Alliancer comic Heroes we had to follow around during the last 3 to 4 expansions after Cataclysm ended.
Okay Erevien, here’s the deal: You hand over Liadrin to the Ebon Blade (We’ll take goooooooood care of her), give up stolen territories in Ashenvale and Darkshore and we’ll make sure the Alliance doesn’t burn down Silvermoon and Orgrimmar. K? You get Talanji and we promise to stop the Lightforged/Kaldorei seeking vengeance for the Nightborne/Highmountain Tauren/Mag’har blowing Alliance troops up.
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There was discussion on Russian forums about this, and there was an interesting idea told:
In Elegy book told, that when Night Elves die, their souls leave the body as wisps. But when Horde player has a quest to rise Night Elves, players search for “souls who will agree to fight on the Horde Side”.
But player use ability to ask the soul, on the dead body. Dead body without a soul, because soul is a wisp, and wisp is somewhere else, not in body.
So, what if those Undead Night Elves, are just elf body with not elf soul? With for example some orc soul? Sylvanas is a Banshee Queen. It’s about time to do something like that in Banshee way.
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Disturbing if true and reminiscent of Gul’dan’s DKs who were orc souls in SW Knights’ bodies. It would go a long way to explaining why Delaryn/Sira have gona apparently crazy => they are not Delaryn and Sira
That said, the wisp is still connected to the body if what PC nelves’ wisps are anything to go by. So I don’t know \o/
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The trauma of death does a lot to damage a mind, especially if there was a lot of other trauma that took place before the individual’s death. Similarly, the experience of being brought back from the dead as a cold, unfeeling, animated corpse is rather traumatic as well. Someone being reanimated has gone through a multitude of horrific experiences, each of which is very capable of shattering an individual’s mind on its own.
As a result, newly reanimated Forsaken are rather malleable. Their insecurities and doubts can be exploited and transformed into outright hatred, no matter how irrational. From this, a new identity is born. Some Forsaken are even capable of coming to conclusions without needing to be shaped by others. We see all of this with a number of Forsaken throughout the game, in Deathknell and the Horde war campaign. So where does the issue lie?
Simply put, it would be too much work for Blizzard to give every reanimated Forsaken the lengthy tales of adapting to undeath that Thomas Zelling, Amalia Stone and Lilian Voss have gotten. In the best possible world, every Forsaken NPC that gets reanimated would have an arc like that which we could watch. All of these incidents of undead automatically being loyal to the Forsaken are lazy writing from Blizzard, justified by the lack of time or resources to write a story for every single one of them.
I’m personally of the opinion that Delaryn (and to a lesser extent, Sira) could have invented a whole bunch of reasons to turn on the Kaldorei and to align herself with the Forsaken. Watching the genocide of your people, losing any semblance of faith and hope, literally dying and then literally having your soul shoved back into your cold, half-rotten carcass so that you can ‘live’ again are all pretty traumatic events that can warp an individual’s perspective. I mean, Sylvanas went through exactly the same stuff and look at what a monster she is.
We just don’t get to see the gears turning in her brain or a transformation over time, making her automatic switching of sides look like lazy writing; which it absolutely is.
Finally, with the parallels we’ve already seen, Delaryn is almost guaranteed to turn on Sylvanas. I’m half-tempted to put actual money on it.
This can’t be because we have seen that some Night Elves rise as wisps again after their death. Those which we have raised & Sira doesn’t rised as wisps. Delaryn…
See what a monster I am, or the NE with pink hair (I forgot your name sry). We doesn’t do it. And for this important peiple they should do somethingike introduction, because well… THEY ARE IMPORTANT?!
This is what we get when writers don’t give a damn about continuity and generally ignore lore. They write short pieces of the “story” without thinking how it fits in all the narrative.
They are building a stone tower by throwing rocks of different shapes and sizes onto a pile without rhyme or reason.
It’s not a story, it’s a clusterf*ck. Unrelated events being smashed together, wrapped around with a tape in a chaotic way and with a label “story” forced onto it. It all makes zero sense.
Consistency? Nope.
Continuity? Nope.
Coherency? Nope.
Logic?! Common sense?! BIG FAT NOPE!
Rule of “cool” made manifest! IGNORE LOGIC! “Write” short pieces of crap that seem “cOoL” and ignore the bigger picture.
This is the LAZIEST was of writing! Guess they can’t deploy anyone competent who would actually be capable of DEVELOPING a story instead of lazily RETC**ING everything to fit their “cool of the moment”.
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I agree, Delaryn and Sira should have had a more thorough exploration of their reanimation and why they have embraced the Forsaken. I can imagine plenty of reasons for their conversion, but all of those reasons are theoretical. We haven’t been shown any reason by Blizzard.
If they spent even a dozen lines of dialogue having Nathanos speaking to them both and redirect their hatred towards the Kaldorei, their loyalty to the Forsaken would be somewhat justified. Instead, Blizzard took the laziest route and we’re left to speculate for ourselves.
We don’t know whether it’s bad writing or not yet. But it’s certainly lazy.
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Yes, we need to wait until they thought the explanation for that all. I really think that they don’t know how to explain that. It all look more like a “rule of cool”. I mean who doesn’t want Forsaken Night Elves.
That’s the problem when many chefs are working on a recipe, and each of these chefs also has other ideas about what to get out of it. . .
I mean, in Cata: they didn’t choose Humans to fight the Forsaken because they were able to call them to the undead.
BFA? What, there was once something: WAAYYYNE!
Then on: The undead a great curse, a damnation, one was abandoned:
Consequence: Let’s create more, do this to them, and then fight those who don’t want it. . .
Oh yes, this is exactly the Wc3 Sylvanas. . exactly!
There are so many logic holes here, I can’t keep up with the plug.
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You are a monster, I was only two posts above you 
Gives Shandyra some fel crystals
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You’re a monster. A DK with weird eyes & non rotten skin, that’s what you are. I changed even my name for you 
You denied that it cost you real money after I commended you on the change
We’re all monsters in war, fellow Sister Knight. And they will come for us now. ALL OF THEM!
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But I can use it only after 15 days again! Did I sacrificed not enough for you?!
This Char wasn’t in WoT
I claim your souls and donate them to the void , she only wants to satisfy her hunger! Understanding pls!
void’s a woman?
well excuse me! licks hand and polishes his own soul ready for a date
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15 days on an alt you don’t even play with, oh noes
Irrelevant, the char has been part of the Horde since WotLK. And the Horde was in WoT, therefore she was part of it.
BY LIGHT BE PURGED!
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Well, I’m from Germany, there’s Der, Die, Das as Article
And it’s called ;Die Leere =The Void.
Hey, it was my first main in Legion. Good times…
I don’t like Zugzug!
Don’t you want to reconsider? I mean, you will hurt yourself terribly too, you know, light and void hurt each other. . we’re not demons, we’re not undead who only have a one-sided weakness against the light . . but we hurt you as much as you hurt us. . please, think again, I would hate to hurt you! Or are you. . . sadistic?