[SPOILER] Being raised as undead and why Blizzard contradicts itself?

I start with a premise, I really got mad at the Darkshore questline because it really makes no sense to me and it’s clearly rushed and written poorly.

I’ve just completed the first part of the Horde war campaign (I’m an Alliance main) and I have some questions now. In the first steps of the campaign we kill Amelia Stone a captain of the guards in a Kul’Tiran city and after being killed she gets raised as undead, in the next quests we see her struggling to accept herself and she’s clearly don’t want to help the people who killed her and her people, it takes a lot of time to Lilian to make her change her mind but still she clearly says that she’s not happy to go against her own people. Now, this an human most likely around 30 years old, a “simple” guard captain.

On the other side in the Darkshore quest line we have 2 night elves, one is a warden and the other a sentinel, both of them have relevant roles and both of them have thousands years of experience fighting for their people against demons and every other foes but after being killed and raised by their own killers they suddenly joins them without esitation and even help them to kill their kind, the most fun thing is that Sira and Delaryn were fighting to save their friends/sisters till the last second before getting killed (Delaryn even saw Teldrassil being burned from the Horde/Forsakens).

My questions are: “Blizzard, is this an out of season april fools joke?”; How can a simple human being more loyal than two night elves?; How can someone join the monster that killed her just 5 minutes before? Why Blizzard even pay people to write a story like this if I could write a better story for free?

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Sylvanas broke their hope and they now agree on this statement. They truly are “Forsaken”. And that’s all the tea for today. Sad story, but the truth nontheless.

Only possible answer I can think of besides poor writing is brainwashing.

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So we can translate this with “Very-poor writing”

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After seeing Cordana, Sira and even Maiev, who went almost mad for some reason, I seriously doubt that wardens are something special. The lads Garithos send to guard the blood elves in Dalaran are probably both more loyal and capable at wardening than them.

Also, you know how it is with elves. You can look at Sira (I’m forsaken now ree), Thalyssra (you asked if I won’t be another Azshara, time to kill you and your people), Liadrin (we saved the world while they did nothing, trust me!), Alleria (light, pfft why, it’s not edgy enough, I’ll use the void to achieve the same results), they all behave like teenagers. I bet Othmar is laughing up there in the heaven.

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We can’t even say that it’s brainwashing because in the next part of the war campaign Sylvanas wants to brainwash Derek Proudmoore and it takes a lot of effort and time

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I was telling that for a long while that elves don’t act like beings which lives thousands of years and saw some sh*t and shouldn’t be easily moved.
But they all act like teenagers. even in “glorious WC3” the nelf drama between Mally Tyri and S’illy were embarrasing to watch.
I dunno how to categorise Sylvanas - I guess cartoony is the right tag (I feel naucious when I even think about that throne room cinematic, t’was sooo bad!)

This is also the reason why Nightborne are ridiculous - they’re well aware that world has changed for past 10k years. So the responsible thing to do would be to create a group of diplomat/ scholars to first find out what is the current situation on entire world before joning faction.

I’d have more respect if they made their choice concious one after analysing pros and cons, and not just joining the faction because one belf pala said it’s better for them.
That’s just retarded and irresponsible.

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Bold of you to assume Blizzard would give that kind of deep thoughts into any of their plots.

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Getting PTSD of the Nightborne scenario on how the joined the Horde… Urghh no stop!

We haven’t had a good o’l Nightborne thread in some time.

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You have a point. But at least people pointed it out to them to work on it more, because execution was shoddy and just badly done.

It seems to be bad writing at the moment. I also have no explanation or statement from them, why they joined the forsaken. I don’t even know why they couldn’t or doesn’t wamted turned into wisps. All what I hope is that we get a good explanation (I know that im pretty naive at this point) for that all.

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Yeah I want a good explanation too, because for me right now this is the most dumb thing in all WoW history

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Yeah, we already got from

Sira: I have my reasons but it’s not the right time to talk about that.

Delaryn: In death you see the things clearer.

I want more information damnit! What have convinced you, what?!

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The answer is Blizzard writers without any idea about what they are doing

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I also said the same a several times. I would be happy if im wrong :slight_smile:

PS: I don’t hate Blizzard and I don’t hate WoW, I love them both but it makes me sad and angry to see my favourite game handled by i***ts

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You know what is imo the most frustrating? That they did received a lot of feedback from players when they did a good job! So instead of setting an example how to handle good story they’re throwing some plots that are written on their lap.

When MoP came up a lot of people were praising Lorewalkers factions - how much it made the world feel whole when even the “not important races” had a very in-depth story.

They already did a nice War campaign in 5.1 - Why not mirroring it in BfA? Why such a lackuster experience?

In Legion I was pissed at them for replacing shadow related stuff with void. When void is distinguish enough from shadow stuff and doesn’t really fit to every culture/ story when shadow stuff does.

In WoD Spires of Arak was one of the better if not best story because of different way portraying shadow and light. It was a shadow that was giving shelter and protection and it was light which was tyrannical and oppresive.

A lot of people loved Nazgrim and Taylor - because we were seeing them progress step by step since WotLK. We watched them grow and slowly advance, this is why they were even more liked than major lore character because they were reasonable in their portrayal. They were not op, they only had their muscle strenght and their witt to get out from hopeless situation.

It’s really aggrevating that instead of getting more Nazgrims we get self-insert Nathanos instead I can friggin tell by the amount of exposure that sometimes doesn’t even make sense. How come Nathanos can be in two places at once?! How come he can be both at Darkshore and Dazar’alor?!

You could tell he used portal, but come on! It means that Horde already lost the Warfront then if he fled the first moment he had, it made his line in the trailer "we will hold this ground, for the Horde " disingenuous, if he didn’t mean it.

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I agree with you at 100%, as I said everyone can write a better story than what we are getting in BfA and that’s a perfect example

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There can be only one of 3 options.

  1. Bad writing.
  2. Mind control.
  3. Some secret plan to betray Sylvanas.

But, in the game if you will talk to Sira, she will just say, that she does not want to talk about this. So, probably writers also have no idea yet how to explain the story. Or better - they don’t know how to fix the mistake they have done.

btw, Blizzard told that in the beginning of January there will be Q/A interview based on Lore. Hope somebody will ask this question instead of talking about Saurfang all hour. :roll_eyes:

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Because thanks to genius Blizzard story-writing, and seemingly irresistible urge to kill off any notable Horde, we have run out characters and now have to borrow from Alliance.

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