Ah yes. They have seen the reaction and fled with the tail between the legs like a scared dog.
Yes you build a horrible monstrosity in a build-a-bear style, isn’t it cool? litteraly don’t see a problem in that, wow never was super serious about it’s edgy side.
I guess they need to kill people irl to make it more impactful lmao
And? am i talking here about execution or something?
Arthas had mini losses before ICC numerous times, most things that y’all criticize about SL execution can be used in regards of WOTLK too
It was probably a first time too
Wow is not a diablo 4, never was, diablo franchise is all about being edgy, warcraft setting is not dark, never was, warcraft is not a dark fantasy, if you want to play diablo play diablo, don’t shove diablo into wow
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Credit where it’s due, at least they didn’t silently let the matter fester for weeks. Regardless of opinion on the matter, seeing those threads recycled ad nauseam would have been tiring.
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The books tell otherwise. WAY otherwise. Did you even read them?
Books is writtent by variuos people with different view of warcraft setting as a whole, they not decide what it is, main source of warcraft stories is games, and they depict wow as regular fantasy
I hope they removed the murder of Amber Kearnen’s quest Chromie has too.
I don’t want my character to be part of a murder /s
Ah, good to hear they’re looking into doing something about that quest. Whew.
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Yes, written by various writers with most of them having regular contracts with Blizzard, that have to follow Blizzards directions and restrictions for their works, have to follow their orders if material is inappropriate or not in line with their agendas.
Yet we still have all the audio books and regular books from Stories like Medivhs mostly unchanged sold online and in book stores.
In case you didn’t know, the original story (still buyable on Audible btw.) of Guardian Medivh was that his Mother Guardian Aegwynn was infiltrated and tainted by a fraction of Sargeras soul after the defeat of his Avatar. Later said taint would carry over from Aegwynn to Medivh in his infant state before he was even born, meaning he got twisted and turned while in his mothers belly. It is even explicitly described by Sargeras when he speaks through Medivh with his “mother”.
That’s almost as 
up as the situation with Alexstrasza and the Dragonmaw clan using the Demon Soul. And yet both is still canon. Both was canon before WoW (the MMORPG) was even a thing.
Also not to mention in the original story Aegwynn did exploit and abuse the father of Medivh too, having a sexual relationship with him not because she had any affection for him but because she wanted to have “the strongest seed” (literally written like that in the books, now retconned btw.) for Medivh to be as powerful as possible.
Did i said that these books are inapporpriate to wow setting and can’t have place in it? WoW had dark stories going on in it but it’s not diablo level of edginess and never will be, warcraft can say that some group of people is genocided or those cultists are cannibals and use blood rituals and show it in as palpable for pg rating way as possible, it is like this since warcraft 3, even famous scene of arthas killing his father isn’t shown to you directly.
Damn evil dude poured some fel into some chick and because of that her son became evil, wow, so dark, not a generic fantasy trope at all.
It’s a generic fantasy trope too, are you sure you understand what dark fantasy is?
I’ll even borrow you description from wikipedia:
Dark fantasy is a subgenre literary, artistic, and cinematic works that incorporate disturbing and frightening themes of fantasy. It often combines fantasy with elements of horror or has a gloomy dark tone or a sense of horror and dread
Diablo can be described like this, warcraft? in some cases yes, as a whole? no, too much hope, too much scenes about good guys doing epic things and winning like in super hero movies, dark fantasy stories are usually devoid of hope, that’s why they are dark, gloomy yadda yadda
Another BLizz L today. Prentending something didnt happen and being too scared to deal with it out of fear of being cancelled is a really REALLY bad look.
That’s literally not how it works to corrupt as a soul splinter. That’s not just like a warlock making you drink some demon blood or so. It is a much more harder and personal type of corruption.
Aside of that, if you don’t find that in some way horrifying, then I get quickly the assumption in my mind that you don’t care for the health of children. Because no one in their sane mind would describe the corruption of an unborn child as a “generic fantasy trope” like it’s just Tuesday in a week.
I surely understand what dark fantasy is, because I am playing Warhammer games too, not just WoW. And Warhammer is literally the definition of dark fantasy, next to the Books from Game of Thrones, Witcher and Lovecraft.
Yet people like you whimper at such “generic fantasy tropes” being shown or told in the MMORPG. Like man, what is this hypocrisy?
“Oh, evil dude corrupting an unborn child and a woman exploiting and abusing a man… It’s such a generic fantasy trope but since it is so generic we can’t show or tell that part of the story in the game because age rating of the game”.
I feel like talking to you is a waste of time, honestly.
… no? It’s thematically broken.
The idea of the abomination is that it’s discarded, incomplete corpses that should have been able to go to rest but instead a monster is made from them, they’re reanimated and therefore some of them probably literally feel they’re a leg or an arm etc. and because the corpses are sawed up in various ways and stitched together they end up with extra appendages and various other nasty and unusual extensions. They were made from whatever corpses were left on the battlefield that weren’t complete enough to reanimate into sobering useful on their own.
So the idea of changing them once, resowing them to make them look nice, making something that somehow loves you and you’re in a friendly relationship with… no? It’s thematically completely broken.
If I were in charge I would have made the event some kind of tournament in the arena with an array of bosses, and then those bosses are actually necromancers, and so are you all of a sudden, and you can send out your horrible minions and upgrade them and order yours to pick up enemy corpses and the combinations you pick results in different abominations and so on.
No, obviously, they need to make the seeds grow into something that becomes like a garden for you, and then you get some anima, and you elect what to feed and what to let die to create some sort of ecosystem.
Well no… but actually yes. The execution here is the choice of theme, the art direction. It’s broken. It’s not small execution details. It’s stories, major features.
I wanted to be intimidated by the realm of the dead. I wanted to be… well, themed around death. But it wasn’t. It was just bad.
They’re not removing the lore, only this particular poorly written and thought out quest referring to it.
It will likely be mentioned again, but (at least, hopefully) in a much better thought out quest/questline.
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Did they remove it? …
EDIT: Oh, they did. Maybe. Kindda? We’ll see.
Well… this is it then. Another bit of Warcraft lore lost to the ever offended.
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People forget - or don’t realize - that S/A is a huge, huge deal to a lot of people who play this game. It’s something that will hit home. It’s also something that can cause a lot of pain and panic, and bad memories.
It’s not about being ‘offended’ or whatever, it’s about seeing something so horrific and then coming across it in a quest where you ENABLE it.
If people don’t understand that much then they’re kinda lost.
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What makes you think so?
They have been so much better on the whole with listening to feedback.
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Nah it’s literally case of “evil thing poured part of his essence into something and through magical shenanigans it became evil”, we see this trope in various forms since LOTR.
Lmao
I think I’ve seen trope of children being turned to evil by intervention of higher evil forces since, ehm, moorcock? I think this trope was even in the bible in some form.
Fb of course, but it also Is a direct satire on DND settings, I know both 40k and FB very in-depth and I can’t stop getting giggles out of some details because Warhammer always had a bit of comedy and isn’t portraying it’s darkness in super serious way because it’s self aware of what it is.
GoT is example of dark fantasy, yes, but I think it’s too grounded to compare it to wow, wow is high fantasy with different types of conflict.
Lovecraft is sci fi, not much of a fantasy to be honest.
You want to say that these tropes that could exist in various fantasy including generic are actually dark fantasy elements
Feeling is mutual
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You are applying it to realm of death, to shadowlands, what you actually build is a effigy of anima that took the form of corpses, things associated with death and war. Maldraxxians change their body parts frequently so it implies that they don’t feel much pain from it,realm of maldraxxus is one big playground for those who embraced war as their whole purpose, the fact that maldraxxus conflict is not utterly horrifying and some times looks fun and tongue-in-cheek is actually quite interesting approach to basically Warcraft Valhalla from my point of view, its afterlife for those who take joy in warfare so their warfare is quite joyful, why it should be suffering at all if it’s afterlife.