Garrosh was a racist edgy teenager in a young muscular orc body, he hated trolls (he expelled them from Orgrimmar) and forsaken (he saw them as an abomination).
Only if we would side against him. If we would be for the horde then he wouldnt. He tolerated anyone that was for his Horde as otherwise he wouldnt have let the Goblins in. Blackfuse for instance had more to say in his Horde than most Orcs did despite being a Goblin.
He kicked you out
If Sylvanas hadnât started The 4th War, The Alliance wouldâve found a reason to start it. The moment azerite entered the world, both factions began developing azerite siege engines. Did you see how far The Alliance had gotten by the time Sylvanas started the war? Both factions immediately started preparing for war, even before Sylvanas attacked anything.
Azerite obviously mirrors and fictionalizes nuclear power. Sylvanas knew The Horde doesnât stand a chance, so their only way of winning an inevitable war is starting it preemptively, before the enemy is ready with all their war machines.
You should step away from twitter, clickbait media and all that garbage thatâs designed to attract attention, considering you not a person, but traffic, ARPU, and ad revenue. Forget these people. During the pandemic, I got banned from twitter and stopped following all media. My life has been so good, because now⌠I can read philosophy myself, I can read academic articles on my own. I donât need a youtuber to editorialize them for me.
Of course, âfemale articleâ will have conflicting opinions - because all those articles are just⌠the opinions of random writers. Why do we give them credence? Women are not a monolith, theyâre individuals, and all individuals hold individual beliefs. Thatâs why you should forget the media - itâs all opinions and my opinion is just as good as one published in the media. Hell, my opinions were in like a CNN article once, guy had written an entire paragraph around my tweet⌠which is so damn sad.
He kicked the Darkspear out. Iâm not a Darkspear. And only because they sided with Volâjin.
And in fact he didnt kick them out. They took their leave.
Well a trollâs a troll.
And than the blame for starting a conflict wouldnât had fallen on the Horde.
Tbh it was never portrayed as powerful as it was told.
A mana bomb is still more powerful.
That was what was sold in the beginning.
In the end, itâs the Alliance who helps the Horde, dealing with their evil Warchief 2.0.
So the conflict was completely useless.
It only served apparently to send souls to the maw.
They can write whatever they want.
I have a problem when the game narrative starts following a certain agenda.
Hereâs something interesting I got from the US story forum:
"Metzen retired.
Itâs been happening for a while that resonant intellectual properties are given to people who donât respect the setting. We see it in films and in television, we see it in games, and itâs happening now in Blizzard.
Because the âold guardâ isnât around in the same capacity as it used to be, the people who have been given the charge to craft the evolution of a world have a divergent vision of what that world should be that the original architects did not have.
Flat out, I lay this at the feet of Danuser and Golden. Theyâre motivated by more than telling a story. I donât know exactly what theyâre trying to accomplish, but Iâm not seeing the same reverence toward the characters and what they were before they had a chance to take a spin with it.
Comic book characters have been around for decades. Even before their original creators died, they were being written by others at times. When Miller wrote Batman, he didnât invalidate what was established by Kane and Finger. Bendis and Slott evolved Spider-Man, but didnât make us feel like we never understood them. At the very least, they didnât reach back into previous storylines that they did not write to try and change what we thought was happening.
Danuser is not doing that. Many of the characterâs heâs currently driving were not created by him, had their stories and motivations details in ways that were understood and relateable. I go in detail about this in a post I wrote about the three âerasâ of Sylvanas here: A Tale of Two Sylvies and why the Jailer Reveal was Bad 2
The story is bad because everything we thought we knew about the major characters is a lie, and weâre shown that we never really understood them. The Jailer revealed that Sylvanas has lied to us since after Wrath, and thatâs something this current writing team decided when the previous team were writing her a completely different way.
This isnât a simple redefinition of a character either. This is a lot closer to Bruce Wayne saying the death of his parents had nothing at all to do with his decision to be a crime fighter, despite decades of the characterâs motivation being understood as inexorably connected to that event, all because the current writer has a vision different than the creator.
The writers are misleading the players. Theyâre doing that by reaching into parts of the story they were not involved in and changing what those events meant. Itâs nothing short of narrative desecration and I donât know how they can call themselves writers if they canât tell a story without erasing the intent of those who not only came before them, but built the world that enables them to prance about in this way."
Cheers.
They only had to do this, because The Horde somehow developed feelings for trees and night elves, grew sentimental and somehow were driven by Saurfangâs desire to kill himself. Heâs had that desire since Wrath, you can even go back right now and see his want to lead the Horde on an obvious suicide mission. Because he wants to die.
Blizzard deliberately leaves crumbs and open trails all over the place, with the intention to possibly explore them in a later expansion. This is why people were able to use Wrath dialogue and quests to predict The Shadowlands fairly accurately way before the leak even happened. A few youtubers speculated 8.3 was going to be in the Shadowlands, because thatâs how the story was looking. If anything, Iâd say Danuser is watching lore speculation and is basing his writing on what youtubers say. But thereâs a reason why many believe Titans are the true enemy - and I personally believe we will get a raid where we kill all of them, maybe not during this expansion but during 10.0 definitely, and why many believe Sylvanas is right in wanting to destroy the entire structure. Itâs because Blizz deliberately leaves hints and open doors all over the place.
And some writer taking this open door and making something new behind it is perfectly fine.
There are little things, too, like Elune abandoning The Winter Queen⌠but then it turns out that she didnât ever abandon her. Which me and many others use to speculate that the Titans somehow pressured Elune into leaving The Queen. But it may be something else entirely - the door is open and our opinion is at best conjecture.
Garrosh was a racist jerk and a murderer but lots of people miss him because he was at least a strong (and entertaining at times) character, one of the few remaining on the Horde side.
I find the rest of the leaders⌠dull. It seems like Blizzard only gives development to Horde characters that are about to get the villain bat and/or die. Itâs quite depressing.
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The last interesting horde character we had was Jastor Gallywix. One of the best scenes was him burning documents before fleeing.
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Had Sylvanas kept following the plan and occupied the city instead of ordering:
âBurn it âŚâ
âBURN IT !â
Also not blighting her own troops at Undercity.
Iâm sure the Old Orc wouldnât had rebelled against her.
But she couldnât and wouldnât, because she only wanted to cause as many deaths as possible. She was serving the Jailer.
There was no reason to follow someone that wants to send everyone to the maw.
There was never a victory plan, only death.
Waiting since WoTLK to see how Sylvanas story develops is not good story telling.
Imagine waiting all that time to see the last episode of your favorite show.
He also likes to leave questions, behind.
Thatâs not good.
In other words: keep buying expansions to get more pieces of the puzzle.
Yes. Because the most powerful entity in WoW universe is the pen of the Principal Narrative Designer and thatâs Steve Danuser.
Cheers.
If Alliance is Humans and friends the Horde is now Elves and friends.
This is an old article but very interesting:
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Yes! Thank you, Anna. Itâs a huge battle for control and as the article states - The Light, too needs to consume our souls. Every grand power is warring for control of our souls, not as people, but as a resource to be consumed.
Without souls, all light eventually becomes void. And⌠this kinda gives us new insight for where the void probably came from and why maybe a war on the void is also in part a war on the light. Or that light and void are intrinsically linked, part of the same whole, and in fact, light has to become void every now and then, to let some chaos out, balance out all the lightâs dominance and control.
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Exactly the same as in FF14 the light becomes too strong and you have to become the warrior of darkness to take it down.
Ooooo i can be a dark edgelord in FF14? Time to switch
I think they have that in most games 
Here itâs Death Knight, there itâs Dark Knight
If there isnt some form of Batman type transmog for this class/role then theyâre missing a trick!
You have to Tank though.
FF14 does class role locking, which I hate. I wish I could be an edgelord uwu person.
Haha itâs stuff like this 
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