It is grieging what that boy larkus is doing. He is the one who should be getting a perma ban. Best way is NOT to rezz at all , with that u take a huge piece of fun out it and killing is what they like most . If ppl would be staying dead in every bg they meet him he and his minions will be bored stiff .
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If win manipulation is not considered against the rules, does that mean win trading in arena is fine too?
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Best way respwn and kill us or go forum like you. So, all ppl wanna go forum better
I play bitz right now and many ppl said like premades its not fair. But if someone go bltz they can open America - here no preamdes and almost all games so close like 1450/1500 points.
fair argument
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Respawn and kill u ? LOL , maybe 3 or at most 5 ppl respawn and they are dead within secs . They have no chance at all killing 10 or more of u who are waiting to bash and slaughter again . And iam not playing the game anylonger and yes i stick with it that ppl should not rezz at all makes their life more easy and u wont be getting much kills .
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But this bg 40vs40. You have same chance kill us and farm
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Sure he had his flaws. His ego was too big, he had poor impulse control, which got him banned in the end, his class is not exactly S-Tier for epic bgs and he was never anything more than a challenger, nor was he an exceptional fighter in any way.
Yet he won the vast majority of his rounds, rallied players behind him and made them work as a team, turned matches around others thought to be lost long ago and defeated some impressive opponents, even in most of the rounds that he lost, his team would have lost much harder if he wasnât there.
He did all this by looking at the map, seeing what needed to be done to get the team ahead, and communicating it to his teammates. In short, he did the job of a strategy caller and most of his teams were better off because they had him on their side.
Now imagine if Drex was more humble, more polite, and a better fighter.
He would have been an amazing leader, right?
The truth is that everyone here has the potential to become his successor, but even better, without his flaws.
To those who want to win more in epic bgs, I can only say this:
Ask for the crown and tell your team where to go, do it well and your team will appreciate it. Those who play like this or with someone who can make good calls usually win a lot, and it beats the hell out of complaining about how much you lose all day.
âŚto compete at all.
See a sync premade in the round? Leave.
Boycott the match, refuse to engage in an unfair competition.
Would you compete in a rigged athletic competition where your opponent is injecting steroids and abuses blood doping in plain sight and the jury doesnât care and lets him get away with it?
Just nope the f outta there and only play matches without sync premades.
- you screw over non-solo players and groups of 2-3 players arenât oppressive.
- syncers would still sync solo players into the same team and you would still have large raids creating massively imbalanced rounds.
This is not a solution.
Kill syncing instead.
I was in his team once and saw him doing it. Capped the GY flag on purpose to the sound of one of his premaders screeching in my ear not to do it, flipped that guy off, called Larkus a degenerate afterwards. No regrets.
Casual winratio never mattered because
- Groups are more reliable than going alone and sync premades make it trivial to win
- you can desert without it counting as a loss.
People donât like to go for hours without winning a single match, this is where winratio does matter again.
same people argueing ab the same thing for years
Right now iam not playing and iam having fun again in another game. I never leave cos if i leave another poor soul will take my place.
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Talking about leaving ⌠if so then ALL should leave , sure we getting deserter but they will be getting it too. Guess how much peed of they would be.
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Iâll answer this Fistus-style with all the quotesâŚ
Yes, if he hadnât been so much of an arsehat he wouldâve been a pretty good leader. Not âamazingâ just âpretty goodâ, which is good enough.
(Personally I donât think what Iâd call a âpretty goodâ leader needs to be an exceptional fighter, or even an average fighter. Thatâs just icing on the cake that would bump them up a tier or two from âpretty goodâ to âgoodâ or âvery goodâ. But I digressâŚ)
I donât care about winning more. I care about having fun, fair fights and I think a lot of other people care about that, too**. If youâre having fun almost all the time win or lose, then what does win-rate matter? People focusing too much on their win-rates in non-rated content leads to degenerate behaviour like multi-synching. People need to save that for rated.
I have never noped out of a match in my life and I donât intend to start now. That behaviour just increases the stranglehold that premades have on the game and amplifies the damage they cause to non-rated pvp.
That would be fine by me if it solved the problem (it would just increase wait-time and, as I said before, if they are truly a bunch of friends Iâm sure they will kill that time having a laugh). But, to be honest, I donât care. Premades just need to be gone, whatever it takes. Thatâs my position on this. No need to respond to this one, I just wanted to state where I stand on the matter. We can agree to disagree on it.
In your community you allow (and therefore enable) 5-man grouping into regular BGs (by âregularâ I mean 10 - 15 man BGs as opposed to 40-man Epics) and that is very oppressive. I have had several sessions ruined by your community in that way. Thatâs why I say ALL premades need to go, not just multi-synch. A 5-man group in a regular BG does not lead to fair, fun fights.
To finish, I admire your passion for non-rated pvp and your efforts to make things better. Please be aware though, that having a community that enables/allows 5-man groups into regular-size BGs (not friends, by the way, often just single players calling out for other community members who want to roflstomp) you are most definitely NOT making things better. If your community was 100% focused on only Epic BGs I would respect what you are trying to do a lot, lot more.
Anyway, we are completely on the same side regarding synching so letâs keep fighting the good fight on that one. One day, one dayâŚ
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** imagine the experience of a new player (or a pve-er dipping their toe into pvp for the first time) if they are coming up against a 5-man group in a regular BG several times in a row. Certainly not fun. Just as bad as coming up against a multi-synch Epic premade, wouldnât you say?
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What do you hope to accomplish by staying?
The sync premade will win regardless and you have wasted your time serving as their cannon fodder.
This is just selfish.
âI prefer to play solo so only the interests of solo players should matter.â
The world doesnât revolve around you. Players in groups are a legitimate part of the random bg playerbase.
You donât seem to understand why some 5 man groups in random bgs are as effective as they are. Do 5 average Joes somehow become superheroes if they queue together in a group? War game central is not an elitist community unlike many 5-stack random bg communities. Everyone can join as long as they have an interest in PvP. 5 groups are only oppressive when you put strong players in your group.
If the player quality of the group members is nothing special, it is as if they are random players, except that it is more social and encourages interaction and building connections between the group members.
Why should I have a problem with that? I encourage it.
âThey are much stronger than our team, why? Oh, it is because they have good gear, play the objectives better and join in groups. Where can I find players to team up with who are motivated and play for the win?â
There are multiple ways to interpret and react to events. The slave becomes bitter and resentful, a healthy person sees that certain behaviors lead to some players being more successful than others and tries to replicate them.
Why do some players prefer to play in groups? Because they are tired of players who put no effort in, leech off their teammates without contributing anything, donât play the objectives, go afk and suck at fighting. They prefer to spend their time with like-minded individuals and enjoy their victories together.
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Iâve already stated my positions and see no point in getting into an endless back-and-forth with you. We can agree to disagree. Those crazy enough to bother can read back and make their own judgements as to the merits of our various arguments up until now.
This one, however, annoyed me:
Dude, do not tell me what I find to be oppressive.
As I have already said, Iâve had more than one personal experience of facing a roflstomping group from your community several times in a row in a single pvp session, utterly ruining that session and ruining all of your opponentsâ chance at a fun, fair fight. So, yes, that felt pretty damned oppressive to me (and, if their comments at the time were anything to go by, it felt that way to those other randos whose sessions you and your community also spoiled).
This selfish desire for you and your small groups to have your fun despite knowing that it is at the expense of so many others clearly means that you have more in common with pre-made synchers than I thought, which is very sad thing to realise. I mean, you pretty much say it yourself:
âŚno matter what it costs so many normal pvp-ers who just want to enjoy a fun, fair fight with no premades.
There, I added the quiet part spoken out loud for you.
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It seems your idea of a fair fight is one where the opponents are too dumb to play and put up no resistance and a normal pvp-er in your eyes is someone who insists on playing solo in a mode where groups are allowed.
Do you know what a normal PvPer is? Someone who accepts that you might face groups in a mode where groups are allowed and who doesnât hesitate to join them because it is normal to play a multiplayer game with others.
And if they go solo, they accept the teammates they get.
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This ^
No point talking to you now that youâve shown me who you really are and what you believe in.
We fundamentally disagree. Letâs leave it at that, eh?
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Someone who thinks that playing in groups in a mode that is meant to be played alone or in groups is fine?
Guilty as charged,
Chad YES.
Nice day to you. 
Good day to you, tooâŚChad 
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Itâs funny how threads that are supposedly about âsync groupsâ are full of < Insert derogatory adjective > crying about 5man premades.
I wonder why they donât go around spamming Blitz if they love playing solo.
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Premade