So I’ve only just started making use of the allied races and it feels so good starting at lvl 20 with being able to choose specs, dungeons and bgs being unlocked. You have the choice to start levelling how and where you want too. Mounts being unlocked is a bonus too. It makes starting anything but an allied race so unappealling.
So I was thinking: Why not give the option to skip the starting zones on new characters for people who already have max lvl chars? Original classes start at 20, Dks 70 in og/sw, Dhs 110 in dala. If you have a max lvl character you should be able to navigate to places to lvl. Leave it as an option so you can see the story if you want.
Many experienced players have done the starting zones soooo many times it’s an unenjoyable chore. Imagine never having to do the goblin starter zone again! Give me a heart if you agree!
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I think the goblin starter zone is a different case because you are trapped on that starter zone far longer than others. With heirlooms you outlevel it so fast yet you can’t get to anything else until you’ve completed it. I’ve not tried it since scaling was introduced. You may just end up higher level now when you complete and things don’t go grey.
DK and DH suffer similarly. They have a set storyline they have to do. Other races can just be created and you can run straight into the main capital if you want.
Imo lvl 20 isn’t that big of a stretch. Sure, it helps, but with most classes you get to lvl 20 pretty quick anyway. Although, I’d actually like to see this feature on classes like DK and DH just like you mentioned, but also the Goblin race, who have quite long questline and for those who are not into the lore it can get really tedious and boring.
Although I’m afraid even if they did add some kind of feature, you’d be required to play through it the first time anyway, so it wouldn’t help at all.
Here is my idea. Shovel all the pointy hat loomers and motorbikers onto these kinds of realms so players can do the starter quests as they were intended without the constant annoyance and drone of motorbikes. Seriously, if its not the dumb way this game has been made so trivial by having one shotters take all the mobs and leave you cold, you then also have the pain of motorbike noises filling your headphones every place you go.
Kinda shows how few new players there are in this game. I actually would love the chance to be on a realm where pay to win items were excluded from the game and I could avoid loomers. Another morning with my new char trying to dodge the loomers. So annoying.
PS Scaling was introduced to try and give these guys a challenge. Didn’t work did it. Just penalised ordinary players.
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Scaling made everything bland IMO. There is no challenge. Everyone is the same to you from level 1-120.
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That’s not quite true, I did it with a mage and got the portal to Orgrimmar, which worked but I couldn’t do any dungeons at 16 until I finished the zones, everything else seemed fine. So I had to go back and finish them, luckily I didn’t set my Hearthstone to Orgrimmar.
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Since scaling even with looms ive yet to see anyone one shot anything .
Is there anyway to skip panda starter ?
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It’s not just skipping storylines, it’s starting with a decent amount of spells and choosing to be a healer, tank or dps. It’s being able to dungeon and join bgs and it’s being able to choose a from a much bigger choice of questing zones.
The starter areas are usually my favourite zones. I don’t level in dungeons or mind running around on foot for a while though. New Tinkertown has the best music. ![:blush:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/blush.png?v=6" ":blush:")
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As you have to level to choose a faction, I doubt it.
then you havent been looking good enough, a few weeks ago i made a dark iron shammy. even as resto i could pretty much one shot things for quite a while due to heirlooms
Now that you have your fancy allied races you want everything to start at 20.
Give you a hand and you take the whole arm off.
Here’s the issue with everybody starting at lvl 20:
Everybody starts at lvl 20, how are you otherwise going to separate the players who have a char at 120 and the ones that don’t? Where are you gonna put them all, at the allied race embassy? When you start separating experienced players from the new ones you alienate the new players that just want to try the game for the first time.
Allied races have to be unlocked, same with DK’s and DH’s that’s why they get to start at a higher level.
The entire reason why this game has gotten so bad is because of a buildup of these kind of forum suggestions over the years that have been implemented in the game. Dunjon finder makes it easier sure, but it also trivialised the game.
People never think of the consequences, they only think in " i wunt muh rewurd nuwh " monkaS
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They know when your a high enough level to unlock dks and dhs. Maybe you only have to play through the starting quest of each race once like the starting quests of bfa. No one moaned when you were allowed to skip that on all your alts.
I really don’t see how this compares to dungeon finder.
Arguing on the wow forums is like talking to flat-earthers.
You know what? The game is already boring and monotonic why not trivialise the whole thing? Sure just allow them to skip the game, that will make them all happy.
If you can’t understand how this compares to a thing like dungeon finder then maybe you shouldn’t be influencing decisions you don’t understand and in effect ruining it even more for the rest of us.
Whats more boring than being stuck repeating content that’s several years old? My point is with the lvl 20 start you can choose different paths to play the game. The leveling before it is to introduce you to the game, the class and the spec but if your an experianced player you don’t need any of that.
Dungeon finder damaged a large social side of the game, I don’t see how this would. New players don’t get pestered by guild till level 20 anyway, the autoinvites don’t work before then. Also rewards from the auto dungeon finder are barely better than wqs and you can’t walk into m+ groups.
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people have been stuck repeating the same content for quite a while now, if allied races didn’t start at 20 you wouldn’t even have dreamt of this idea in the first place. I don’t see this happening any time soon since it’s pointless to just flat out skip 20 levels because 5 people on the forums are too lazy to grind out 20 levels because they’ve clearly burned themselves on it.
Grind for your allied races if you want the extra levels. Newbies have to start from level one and the same goes for you.
You can’t just leave the new players behind just because your pompous #@ has done it 5000 times before
I could keep going but it’s getting old and it would take more strength than I have to pull that stick from out your butt.
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reaching lvl 20 isn’t that hard anyways. Plus most people can easily get the heirloom mount. So you’re not gonna have that much of a problem either.
Please dont assume ,ive recently lvled a LF hunter and i have seen nobody mass pull mobs and aoe them down and nither have i hit one spell and killed anything just does not happen even with fully looms .
I like scaling, but yes, this is sort of a downside with it. I do recall having fun trying to kill off orange/red mobs back in the days. Didn’t always work due to “miss, miss miss”(at least for the red ones), but the orange ones could be of boths sorts. Too much or I’d manage. I did enjoy it. I do however think scaling is way better than grey mobs and cut off questlines because you don’t wanna waste your time doing grey quests.
(Yes, I am in for the story, but I am also in for getting to max level, so if I’m gonan do grey quests I might as well do them at max level for the sake of the story, but I’d prefer finishing storylines while leveling up, without having them cut off like they were in the end, before scaling was added).