Starting to think we have a problem

Were is your source on them setting the price ?
If they did set it the gold we get would be much lower way back to the 30k we used to get a massive drop down from the 400k+s we have had in past .
I would like you to confirm a source as if they are thats wrong.

Because the Token exchange has to start somewhere, we will be setting the initial gold value of the WoW Token ourselves. The starting gold value in each region will be based on several factors, including regional in-game economies, but ultimately our goal is to select a fair and reasonable starting price. After that, the Token’s gold value will be determined dynamically based primarily on player supply and demand.

Meaning that it’s their algorithm in the background that sets the price on tokens. And I’m quite sceptic on how it operates because it makes no sense that it’s this low given the amount of gold in circulation. Unless someone is intentionally holding it this low so people will continue buying them. And who has most to gain buy having tokens this low in price given the economical wealth we otherwise see in-game?

Yeah i can see that but if they are setting prices now that is just plain wrong.

As for boosters setting high prices they still think we are earning wod and legion gold which is so far away from the truth.

Player to player prices have always settled relatively quickly based on the amount of gold in circulation. I don’t think there’s as much gold coming in from WoD and Legion either, but that begs the question; where does the gold come from? My bet is that it’s not generated, but circulated. And the only circulation we have on a player 2 player basis, is tokens.

Had the prices on boosting been too high, people wouldn’t have bought them and the consequences of that would be a price drop. But prices are held high. Why? If we agree on WoD and Legion not providing that much income any more, then where does the ones buying boosts get the gold from?

It’s also good that people buy boosts and trade money between them, because then gold is kept in-game. And continue to circulate. And the ones benefiting immensely from this, is Blizzard.

I see what you mean thanks for your post :blush:

The problem is that the game is pushing players out of a regular social interaction. It is made to provide casual interaction and im fine with it. Like many players, i have a job and a family, (the prevalent age group), and having strict schedules to comply outside the real worl is not the funniest and realistic thing for many.
This is why guilds are dying, with exception of some mythic hardcore ones. This is why communities had some success and are preferred in relation to guilds to find players for specific content.
Find/construct a group of 5/10 good players, that can comunicate with each other, that have compatible shedules, that are willing to stop whatever they are doing to join other players at any given instant and are free to do so, in theory is easy but in practice not so, specially in a game that turn out to invite to individual paths, that go along with casual social interaction.
It is a completly different philosophy in comparison with vanilla, which invites from the begining the players to build solid relations.

As i said im fine with that, i exclusively pug arenas/mythic+, (dont really care about raids), and specially in mythic+ above 10’s, the tax of success is probably less than 50%, but when i start i already know that is perfectly normal to happen that way, what gives me extra satisfaction when accomplish one in time. But some players are trapped in this need of “success”+pug gaming+impossibility to make solid relations, which turns out to be, as you said, incompatible.

I think people need to accept that the WoW community isn’t as good as they are, and by those people I mostly mean veterans.

And the fact that people tend to notice other’s mistakes more than their own.

You could be a rank 1 player and still make a rookie mistake and you might not notice it.

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It does, unless you’re into crafting (which is useless regardless) then you do not want to scrap anything that is not Azerite Armor.

By simply disregarding Scrapper in that manner I actually managed to stay afloat, and kept steady 20k gold in my bags. I bet by doing mission tables and some AH or gold farming I would easly be able to generate gold for myself.


To the OP:
The whole game is out of proportion.
Too much ilvl spread, too much gold income and sink, too much difficulty levels, too much whining.
The problem with m+ is it’s infinite, not exacly btw it’s a hyperbole, meaning that you can push and push and push. Obviously with skill you can go higher but then you’re wasting gold on repairs for little of profit.
How to gain gold back? By selling boosts.

See? It’s not that we get too much gold that causes boosts, it’s that we do not get enough for basic needs. And those with stacked large sums or big wallets for tokens are “buying” progress - which is completly different topic of P2W.

I not only disagree. I also want to tell you that, since they didn’t help me out, you shouldn’t be helped out either.

see, works both ways. you being an a$$ in what was meant to be a positive thread and trying to bring players together, you actually show the type of person you are. and it dont look nice.

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Neither does dragging in drama from another thread by the way like where did this even come from

I found repairs one of the few big expenses this exp. Other than that nothing. Struggle with some key in a pug? Congrats, 500g repair while gaining only like 200 AP and barely any gold. Even winning a bg grants you 200 gold in the strongbox, at least there you don’t lose money ^^.

But to go more ontopic, a 3k player who doesn’t know how to play? Unlikely.

The only thing I can imagine is that they only push when the week’s affixes are easy, which could mean they suck at a certain affix or combination of affixes…

And that is the biggest problem if you only look at their max-score… 1.3k gained in the easiest week is not equal to 1.3k gained during one of the harder weeks. Although the base mechanics are still the same, f.e. handling sanguine is significantly different than let’s say teeming. And if you haven’t tanked in a sanguine or necrotic week before in every dungeon, it can be tricky knowing where to place every mobpack to minimize issues.

there was no drama until OP made his unneeded comment. there still is no drama there as everyone is on the same page. go look for yourself. the whole thread was about an issue that most of the playerbase is effected by, and every comment was positive. OP didn’t need to say anything, and if thats his response to things, why even bother posting here at all except if he is trying to troll?

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The OP once spent a Saturday night going around telling people they are retards and suffer from autism .
Made thread after thread about it and spammed other threads with it aswell.
You can see his post history he derails topics in an endless fashion.
Can you really see people buying boosts to 3k Rio ? Can you see people buying 5 or 6 jania mythic kills ? Or 2.4 rateing its a troll thread.

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Well, I can make half a million in a week, maybe less depends on the time I spend. And I also rarely spend the full amount of Gold, or material to buy me potions or food, sometimes I spend some time farming while doing a WQ, and I do them a lot meaning that’s at least 20x of one material, or close to that, maybe even more when doing WQ’s.

Let’s be honest here, you don’t have to be the best to boost people, people do boost tens and its easy, maybe they got the gold from boosting to buy higher boosts themselves, or spend hours upon hours farming materiale, or whatever, it just seems like tons of people with high ratings are really really bad, and terrible at the game.

And I don’t take insane amounts of gold per run, which is quite clear since I can only make half a min per week, I also do free boosts which costs me, but I can still make tons of gold.

The irony in that message vintoleth, read it out clearly "I’m trying to adapt to a mentality that 90% of wow users use. I can’t reason with people on here, because if they don’t get it, others wont either, its unfair, cry cry. And I am tired of not being able to have constructive conversations without egocentric crybabies being all grunchy, so to fit in I adapt, I at least try, how is that hard to understand? You’re probably one of the people I am trying to adapt into becoming, somebody who tthinks everything is unfair if others get their way and you dont. lol

Its like… A jungle to even converse with wow players, their logic is flawed, and fit to world of Warcraft, and the internet world that they live in, the real life values, and being decent don’t apply, what applies is the internet.

You know how hard it is to fit in a place where logic, humanity, and caring for eachother is none existing? Its only when causes like autism or other bullsht PC /Metoo is taking up that people actually band together becuase they suffer from the same BS, but as long as it has nothing to do with them particularly, or anything else, people are not sane, they have their own little logic-world on wow, and its 90%, but that’s fair, I was not really meant to be a gamer, and I can clearly see that.

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Buy WoW-Token, sell in auction house, buy gear, buy raidboosts, voila. Swifty bought 20 tokens the other day to equip his boosted character. Playing the game is for poor people these days. It’s really easy to skip leveling and gear progression if you shell out money in a subscription based game wich is pretty funny…well no it’s not funny it’s disgusting and sad. I am glad there will be classic, i will leave retail and never look back.

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It’s called a kick. Easy solution.

If you think there’s not gonna be boosts there prepare for disappointment.

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I mean, i just looked at your jadefire and opulence logs and you died to avoidable stuff basically every kill, i don’t think you’re in a position where you can judge what is good and what is bad.

Maybe they’re not trying when boosting you?

Go tell that to your self so you feel better.

Someone that is actually skilled wouldn’t go out of their way and blame others for their mistakes.

I’m pretty sure not a single of our buyers buys a boost for the score and none of them will queue for your M+, they will just buy a boost again, instead of having to deal with you.

How dare he doesn’t play the hardest TD affix perfectly?
It’s like he didn’t do his +16 on a sanguine/necrotic week…

Pretty sure you could sit down your granny and she would outperform you by a bit margin, indeed.

You’re, indeed, a young god. Never died to falling dmg at jadefire, never died to flames of punishment at opulence… wait, yes you did.

You saying it’s the easiest week disproves everything you said about you being skilled and knowledgable.

If it’s so easy to time +10s, how come you can’t even carry your group through a +10 TD?

Oh man, where to start…

From my experience gold in BfA is way less easily obtainable. It’s way way way slower than it was before.

They’re not doing that and the fact that you think they are, says more about you than them tbh.

:man_shrugging:
Who cares? I would never even such a toxic spying service. It’s a horrible shallow way to look at people.

Of course not. I’d think that only a small percentage actually buy boosts.
I myself only ever bought 1 boost. Back in WoD; I wanted the moose.

Doubt it. Again, this type of thinking says more about you than anyone else.

Damnnnnn man. You are one huge elitist aren’t you?
Who do you think you are?!
That statement alone makes me hate you as a person; it really does.

Ok you need to chill. You need to stop demanding people to play how YOU want them to. Find likeminded people and make premades. Problem fixed.
Those people are not the problem. Your horribly toxic mindset is the problem.
Imo of course.

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tank yourself? :joy: funny that you point fingers at others while sitting at 1.2k rio and 4/9 mythic :joy:

like, Im pretty casual, havent pushed a key for almost 2 months now and even im almost 2k at this point.

you’re on the other hand straight up bad, and therefor your play with other people who are bad, so stop complaining.

bet you’re good tho, probably why you have a lot of cutting edges and arent rotting at 1.1k rio :joy: …oh wait. :joy:

What do you mean he is bad? He wants to raid world 50 coming 8.2 :smiley:

:star: <Paragon> Is Recruiting!

  • We are looking for:
    All players, experienced, in-experienced, although we will point out basics are required to raid with us.
    ->> Contact us through Wowprogress/ingame!

About us:
Paragon is a Guild formed on the 20th of april, our goal is to gather all types of players, and raid the same amount of time as many top Guilds. Our main goal is not particularly aiming for the top spots. But earn cutting edges when they mean something.

Set Goal for Rise of Azshara:
World 50.

Requirements:
A stable Internet connection and appropriate hardware!
Motivation, time and ambition!
A high attendance, also in the farm
Communication and team skills. We do not want egoists!
A very good understanding of the game and appropriate preparation and follow-up
Accept criticism and constantly strive to improve your performance any way you can.

Raid Schedule:
Paragon plans to raid six days a week the first two weeks of mythic raid tier release. Each raid night is about 4 hours long. All raid days: 19:30 to 23:30.

After the first two weeks, raid days will be:

  • Monday
  • Wednesday
  • Thursday

What we can offer:

  • No empty promises.
  • No drama
  • Stable raid days, and hundred percent attendance from all members involved.
  • Raid leaders, and Guild masters ready to learn, and do their very best to make it a succesfull Guild.
  • A new home where you wont feel alienated, or pushed away.

From “Formed on April 20th” to “World 50” in the time of 1 patch :smiley:

Curious to see how he will clear the new raid with just 2 members, of of them being him :smiley:

And he also doesn’t give empty promises, like world 50 or something :smiley: