So after having swept through the questline regarding Vol’jin (little late I know), and his decision in making Sylvanas the new Warchief, I couldn’t help but wonder a few details about Icecrown and the Lich King.
Upon entering the Citadel, we find that the halls are once more filled with undead minions, he is the Lich King afterall, and it is Northrend, so he is not short of them. But I can’t help but wonder what he might be up to in there. As the Horde confronts him, he denies involvement, but nonetheless tells them in his own way, to leave at once. And without further hesitation, sets his minions upon them and forcing them to flee immediately.
He clearly wasn’t idle during Legion either, as the Death Knight story showed us. And as a player who truely holds the story of the Lich King close to heart, I’m dying to know if he is perhaps mustering forces? Tightening his grip on the Scourge? Or does he keep to his vow that he gave Tirion to become the jailor of the damned, and keep the Scourge in check for the better of Azeroth?
If there are any information regarding this, I would love to know.
There used to be abit of lore where the corpse of rivendare (albeit him or his son) has been reclaimed by the scourge.
There also 2 factions of scourge.
Bolvar’s scourge, which you see throughout the lore.
Lorderaron’s scourge these were just out of reach of the lich king when bolvar became the lich king and now functions autonomously in service of their now dead master.
I have no idea if the latter has been reclaimed by bolvar.
“Icecrown Citadel is very much active as the main base for the Scourge armada and Bolvar is still LK. He’s already got the ebon blade in his pocket with the Four Horsemen so it’s only a matter of time before the knights return to his service fully.”
-Nelox
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Bolvar became the Lich King to contain the Scourge so after WotLK he likely recalled majority of the Scourge forces into the citadel to contain them.
With Legion the Ebon Blade and Lich King agreed if they served him against the Legion he wouldn’t use the Scourge to fight them, hence they’re still contained in Northrend.
So it is a big guess that he still have a huge army left from Northrend era who just sits restlessly in the citadel for now.
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Bolvar is up to a few things.
He’s rebuilding his citadel, plans and all. This is being supported by Acherus’ Lich, who’s helping the Lich King in this.
He’s up to a few things, I’d say. But eveything he wants to be done, is done by the Death Knights of the Blade (ever since Legion), as they became allies. So he has his little Scourge floating around in the Hold.
As you can see, through Legion, he has ordered his now firm allies of the Ebon Blade to rebuild his Horsemen, his Sindragosa(The Giant Lightning Dragon from the Broken Isles) and everything else.
He does constantly threat the Blade so they do X and Y thing for him. IMO, he’s not the same Bolvar that’s keeping the good-boy vow anymore and he is up to something.
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My thoughts exactly, with his latest activities it does not seem like his sole purpose is safeguarding Azeroth. Afterall, bringing back the Four Horsemen is definately a sign that he is mustering forces, rebuilding his strenght and armies.
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I imagine it should be cause for concern. Bolvar being the veteran and strategist Arthas never was etc.
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something ya’ll seem to forget is how Bolvar clearly didn’t have full control of anything until after the death knights helped him.
the fire mage and the frost dk have to retrieve their weapons in ice crown and both discover that the citadel is being invaded or have been invaded.
I don’t remember things word for word but I remember it left the impression that he had trouble keeping everything under control.
now from what I saw in legion on my DK and what I have read here about the vol’jin quest I am going out on a limb here and say:
I am just making a guess here but, I think Bolvar is keeping his promise, he isn’t as strong as arthas or ner’zul was when it comes to keeping control, I figure he his gathering as much of the scourge as he possibly can to keep ice crown locked down and to avoid more invasions from old and new enemies/allies. I think he put his trust in the Ebon Blade to do what he couldn’t himself in legion (and if you ask me, the Ebon Blade could have said no and taken him down, because honestly what difference does a normal and a feral ghoul make to anyone, anyway? they will both attempt to eat your face and we have faced worse than rampaging undead at this point).
I don’t think there is any evil plot ongoing with him, I think he 1. wants to be alone and 2. keep himself as neutral as possible as to not call the horde and alliance back into action in Northrend.
There is however one plot I could see happen in the future, since blizzard love the color grey so much, I could imagine a certain arch-lich making his return and fight for control over the scourge, leaving us to side with bolvar and his scourge faction.
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Well, to keep his promise…
“Without it’s master, the restless scourge will become an even greater threat to this world. Control must be maintained, there must always be a Lich King.”
I am sure he can sit atop the throne and telepathically command his minions, once he managed control of those powers, as the late LK did. But now that he commands the Four Horsemen again, and partially the Death Knights of Acherus, his current power is considerable. I know those means were to battle the Legion, but what is their purpose now? They are powerful beings, all of them.
Maybe the Four Horsemen shall become the Four Shepherds?
of course, now he holds considerable power and could pose a threat, but I am not convinced he is going to be the next big bad we have to deal with, he lacks the motivation to do more than keep the scourge in check.
what he did in legion falls in line with who he used to be, a hero who could set aside factions to fight a common enemy, he did this through what means he had at hand, that being the restoration of “some” of the scourges must powerful weapons (the horsemen), but since then he has been quiet and legion left the impression that the horsemen are part of the Ebon Blade and not under the lich kings direct command.
Bolvar is playing his cards close but non of his actions have been out of line with his promised goal of keeping the undead threat in check, and what people like to say he did in legion was actually done by the Deathlord not bolvar.
Bottom line is: he might be hiding something or he might just want everyone to stay away so he can focus on his eternal task. He isn’t Ner’zul or Arthas, his motivations are his own and I don’t see him restart the plan Arthas had of turning everyone into undeath, not only is it pointless when he can just keep a shaky alliance with the death knights but for a guy who isn’t hands on like Arthas was, he sure don’t seem the type to repeat the events of wrath.
And in the event Bolvar is gone and Ner’zul is in control, I like to remind you Ner’zul had a grudge against the legion, so even if he is behind the helm, he is currently without a goal since his grudge has been dealt with, thus turning the world into zombies seems unnecessary.
TL:DR
Bolvar lacks the motivation to become Arthas 2.0
Next Scourge threat is more likely to be Kel’thuzard.
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Where did he go, anyway? My memory of the aftermath of Naxxramas is shaky at best. We didn’t kill him but didn’t we hand his phylactry over to someone?
In vanilla we did defeated him and took his phylactry which we stupidly handed over to a supposed member of the argent dawn who turned out to be cult of the damned agent who took the thing to northrend and later turned into a lich himself.
in northrend we defeat kel again only this time no phtlactry which means he is still alive and able to return.
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That’s Vanilla Naxx. After we killed him the first time, we handed KT’s phylactery to Father Inigo Montoy who turned out to be a Scourge Agent in disguise and he used the phylactery to revive KT. It was the first show in the story of the Hero being a greedy moron.
After we killed KT the second time, the phylactery was simply left where we killed him, unless someone picked it up after we left.
Damn it, too slow…
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Ah, I got my phylactries mixed up I think. I was thinking about that other Lich in Dragonblight.
That’s Thel’zan the Duskbringer, the lich who Father Inigo Montoy ascended into after reviving Kel’thuzad.
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Kel’thuzad is gone. His soul was written to be lost to the Shadowlands in one of the Chronicles, so it is just Bolvar.
Ner’zhul is still around inside that helmet, as he was apparently written to be lol’ed @ by Arthas into depression while he had the helmet on (Might be the former before it was retconned b y Arthas killing him, but whatev).
Also, for one that apparently keeping his “promise” and “vow”, he sure likes to threaten the world with not containing his Scourge if they don’t do what he says.
And besides, when you the player enter the citadel as a mage, the place is a mess but he still has control of the whole place & has control of the Sunstrider female who wields it. He is just won’t help you if it goes south and if you were to die, you’d just be another undead in his castle. He is entirely in control.
Only problem he has is reaching way too far away from Northrend (When he attempted to reach out towards the ice where death knights get their class mount).
I mean. Somehow, Arthas has been one of the best commanders the world has ever seen. He won several battles while completely outmatched, while what did Bolvar do? He got deceived by a dragon for two expansions and then killed by Forsaken. His feats are terrible if compared to Arthas.
can you provide some quotes, not because I don’t believe you, but I like to know as much as possible as to not spread false info.
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I can direct the Kel’thuzad one for now, just go on Kel’Thuzad’s Wowpedia and do CTLR+F and search Shadowlands.
https:// wow.game pedia. com /Kel%27Thuzad
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