I don’t get what you are saying. In TBC there is much more competitively ranked PvP which is arena and it requires you to get honor points to compete there.
Only one faction can queue because all PvP players are on the other side.
Has been zero response from Blizzard about it.
- Pls, stop this “player issue” meme, It’s an oooooold game fault that was partially solved by merc mode and bonus honor for allies on retail.
- Not all horde pvpers are minmaxers. They just want to do pvp with the faction they like in the game they pay for. I did’nt know you have to be punished for this.
- Blizzard will not fix this mess, they don’t care much about retail pvp, so good luck with classic.
Draw your own conclusions
Well from numbers we know- (only active raiders)pvp servers 60:40 balance, overall servers 54:46 balance, and horde having somewgere between 3-6x more pvpers than ally, it aint that balanced
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What exactly is the old game fault?
- It is a player made issue just the same as world buff meta
- Not all but most of the PvPers are and imbalance punishes both sides
- There is no mess to fix there are solutions to most the problems already
For once a based post by Dottie
In sheer numbers the difference is less than 10k so yes it’s not much
Only a Horde main would say that. Mercenary mode will strait up kill Alliance population, because there would be no drawback of rolling for the overpopulated Horde, only benefits.
With Faction change we would at least have less Horde roaming for honour out there, if they would not participate in other activities on their BG only Alliance characters.
Making broken racials that affect performance in PvP instead of population balancing tools and only vanity or minor racials, because they feared noone would play for hairy, stinky and green skins. Then buffing and removing negative parts about Blood Fury and Berseking, making the de facto extra PvE trinkets, while also adding Blood Elves. Blizzard should had been balanced racials after Wrath seeing Horde population snowballing, but they didn’t and thus we got heavy Horde bias in retail.
Why do you think they put warmode in retail for exactly?
A lot of horde PvPers are min-maxers though.
You see people commenting all the time on how they rolled horde to be part of the “PvP faction to find fellow people for arena” lol.
Of course they won’t, thus the horde’s main choice is to either reroll/deal with queues or just quit in general.
The problem is that most of alliance players don’t want to bother with pvp. The queues for hordes are long even on servers where the horde/alliance ratio is close to 50%/50%.
Queues for Horde was long even in vanilla TBC. Around 30 min from what I remember on the most populated EU server. TBC classic should be as close to the Vanilla experience as possible.
The problem is that the Alliance participation in BGs is to low. This is because:
- Player rolled horde for PVP and Alliance for PVE because the internet meta told them to do so.
- Alliance experience of PVP during Vanilla and lvling in TBC has been 1vs10.
- Alliance BG experience is that 1/3 of the team go afk as soon as the team falls behind
The only sulotion that wont completly break the whole TBC experience would be to give Alliance greater rewards for winnning a BG. The same sulotion they have for dungeonfinder when Healers or Tanks are to few.
The only sulotion Hordes have is to queue for AV and stop the turtling/defending so AV matches end fast with towers being destroyed (because they are not defended). This would increase participation for Alliance alot and queues would be alot shorter for Hordes and honor/h would be much higher. This was Hordes sulotion during Vanilla TBC.
That is only active raiders, real number is way higher most likely
It’s a Blizzard created issue with the stupid boosts and TBC Edition… 2 of my friends already went back to retail… 
This is getting really sad at this point. I hate retail since Cataclysm, when they started to develop the game for 9 years old children, pruned the spells and talent trees, monetized the classes, and I know a lot of guys who feel the same.
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