PTR Update notes have come in and its just a mess. No real improvements for Paladin. STILL expecting us to Seal Twist to be competitive. Please sort it out. My sub and many others depend on it.
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then leave you won’t be missed
you need to understand that you’re not alone, people were asking for this since p1 why should it be denied to them because you’re doing a tantrum ?
and please don’t you dare to say it was asked by a minority, because if it really was a minority it won’t be here anyway, you’re just acting like those gdkp enjoyers
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No, you need to understand that you are part of the vocal minority.
I never said it should be denied, just that another option other than seal twisting should also be available that is just as competitive.
If you have nothing constructive to say, get out.
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constructive ? and what so called construcive thing have you said since the change made on the ptr except : “waahh wahhh I don’t want to seal twist waaah T-T”
I’ve said many things on all your topics on the subject go read them it’s not my fault that you’re just a stubborn baby about it
you had your gameplay forced on all the paladins during two whole phase now just let the other part have fun
and again if that was asked by a minority why did it comeback AGAIN ?
stop crying for once
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Seal Twisting 1500-1600 dps
Exo spam 1100-1200 dps
Both playstyles are fine and Seal Twisting should always do more damage because its harder to do. Exo spam is viable and won’t be bottom damage so you should do this.
Everyone wants Seal Twisting because its the defining playstyle of Ret in ERA and TBC.
Most players playing SoD are ERA/TBC enjoyers. This means a majority of the Ret players are pro Seal Twisting.
If you like Seal Twisting you won’t be posting on the forums about it because your happy. Only unhappy people will.
Your literally the only Paladin I have seen that is unhappy about it…
Please play Purifying Power and Exorcism spam. Its not that much weaker and you’ll be able to move on. Think about all the Rets who endured 3 Phases of the most brain dead crap rotation who were tricked to playing SoD because they saw Seal of Blood and were hyped about twisting just for it to get removed weeks before launch. Its a massive win for Rets. Im sorry you like a 1 button rotation but its just not the thing for most people.
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Make seals immune to dispell atleast
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I don’t understand the problem at all - just play holy DPS, if you like exorcism spam - you basically get a second exorcism called “holy shock” I’ve been doing that since P2 and it’s just as viable.
Let the Rets be Rets and focus on Shockadin being viable for your different play style
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I’ve been of the position that an alternative should be available, because you know we already had something fresh and now its become old with the introduction of viable twisting.
All you’ve ever done is complain at me for expressing the fact there should be another option. I think you need to stop being such a crybaby and taking offense that not everyone likes to indulge in what is basically bug gameplay.
I don’t understand the problem at all - just play holy DPS, if you like exorcism spam - you basically get a second exorcism called “holy shock” I’ve been doing that since P2 and it’s just as viable.
Let the Rets be Rets and focus on Shockadin being viable for your different play style
Haerman, is this character the one doing Holy DPS? How can you sit there and say its viable when you have grey and green parses?
and then you swap it over to damage instead of healing as it did correctly detect that he is in holy spec, man people are bad at actually using that website… Although to get any type of dps log as holy you can just auto attack the bosses, but if you are going to comment on how someone parses make sure you actually look at what its about and not at something else.
I think I did go full on DPS in Gnomer, in ST I usually dispell, off heal, CC or do whatever seems to be helping the raid imho.
If you’d try playing Shockadin you’d prolly get some really good value out of it - I’m not playing to its full DPS potential is what I’m trying to say
So your issue is that you dont want to have to play Twisting to get Orange Parses.
Well if you are gonna META game that hard maybe you should re-roll and play Flavour of the Month.
You are asking to get a playstyle that is a 1 button rotation and brain dead easy so you don’t have to put the work/effort to get a good parse. It seems like you want to get the reward without doing the work.
If you want good parses the Twist and don’t complain or ReRoll to a class with a playstyle thatbis more in tune with want you want. You have the PTR you can test all max level ckasses easily.
Sad thing is he will be missed,
Ive seen a ratio of about 20/2 for people not wanting seal twisting on here, us forum, reddit everywhere
literally you guys are the guys that cry the most and are busted in pvp but you guys got 2 brain cells so you can’t read your spells but you can cry on the forums blizzard we are weak pls buff us, and ofc when 100 of you ppl join 1 post and keep on crying blizzard will listen only because they don’t play their own game and they cant see paladins shamans and druids 1v5 killing ppl in bg’s while the rest with no heal in their kit or snare/cc immunity spell die in 1 stun 
Pls stop crying all you 
your class is broken l2p
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Paladin 1v5? You are sadly mistaken with another class there.
i’ve witnesed ab’s with 4 paladins wiping 10 ppl on blacksmith you cant change what i have seen young one!
That was already checked before I posted my comment, and its still trash. Did you actually check damage and have a look at the numbers and the logs. Are you trolling or are you actually that much of a fool?
Holydk -
So your issue is that you dont want to have to play Twisting to get Orange Parses.
Well if you are gonna META game that hard maybe you should re-roll and play Flavour of the Month.
You are asking to get a playstyle that is a 1 button rotation and brain dead easy so you don’t have to put the work/effort to get a good parse. It seems like you want to get the reward without doing the work.
If you want good parses the Twist and don’t complain or ReRoll to a class with a playstyle thatbis more in tune with want you want. You have the PTR you can test all max level ckasses easily.
Again, you’ve missed the point. I would like to have exo spam back personally, but that isnt everything to me. The main thing is twisting, most people dont like it. Give us something else.
Nahmon -
literally you guys are the guys that cry the most and are busted in pvp but you guys got 2 brain cells so you can’t read your spells but you can cry on the forums blizzard we are weak pls buff us, and ofc when 100 of you ppl join 1 post and keep on crying blizzard will listen only because they don’t play their own game and they cant see paladins shamans and druids 1v5 killing ppl in bg’s while the rest with no heal in their kit or snare/cc immunity spell die in 1 stun
Pls stop crying all you
I don’t even PvP so try harder.
I did look at the numbers thats why I said that you can just auto attack the bosses to get any type of dps logs as holy.
I just know way to many people who just check the color of peoples parses and not anything else to not comment at that miss as his dps logs are amazing for a holy paladin just like my tank heal parses as a warrior tank is (even lower numbers somehow even though I do use flask on fights so there should be atleast 1hps)