Stop letting Level 70's join lowbie BG's

For the love of all that’s sane in this world, just stop this madness already… Letting level 70’s in full PVP gear join with their friends, that have double the health than half the players and do crazy amounts of damage, has to be the single dumbest thing you’ve ever allowed in PVP.

It’s wrong on so many levels it’s laughable. Talk about ruining the PVP experience for anyone that’s trying to level using BG’s. The scaling sucks. The experience you get from losing sucks. Everything about it sucks.

Please stop this lunacy.

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Yep, stupidest idea Blizzard ever had. Just change it to the same rules xp stop has. Works until level 59 and no way after that.

Had a full equipped level 70 hunter in 60 today that oneshotted everything.

I just did two BG’s in a row on my 62 Hunter, and there were the same 4 level 70’s queuing with their friend decimating everyone. It’s not clever and it’s not fun.

One guy got hit with a 76k shot and he only had 96k health. If it’s not fine in rated PVP to one shot people, why is it fine in lowbie PVP?

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I know cases of very hypocritical people who cry about premades in lvl 70 bgs, but they brag about making premades synchronized with lvl 70 people at bgs lvl 61-69 because they like to oneshot low lvl. We live crazy times.

You should buy crafted gear for your hunter as I did for mine, it makes a ton of difference.

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The 70 is scaled to 69 including their gear.

Still have at least one more talent, more optimal stats, odd effects, enchants and the whole shabang.

I wouldn’t ban them out of bgs, just tune them down way more.

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make gear scale to 61 instead of 69 they wouldnt play anymore

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Exactly, since they currently scale to 69 they are pretty much stronger than every other person in the BG. Just scale them to the lower end of the bracket and they won’t be able to continue their reign of terror.

No the gear stats is a template unrelated to what is equipped. The 70 could equip anything, and their gear in the 69 bg would have same stats. Level 70 trinket effects, etc are disabled. They only have access to spells that a level 69 would have access to.

Mhm, yet only the 70 ones tend to be able to two-shot you :man_shrugging:

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Every player in the 61-69 bracket is level 69, including the 70. However, the 70 has the (I assume) templated equivalent of a full set of that bracket’s PvP gear. Whereas an actual level 69 might have, any kind of gear, could be PvE questing gear for example. In DF, having levelled to 70 in bgs I didn’t see much difference between the 61-69 bracket and the 70 bracket. In 61-69 I used the green reward gear from wins and it worked fine. ‘One shotting’ or fast death happens in that bracket and 70 bracket, part of the game I guess.

The problem is that you’re never at the top of a bracket for long - you inevitably gain XP and move into the next bracket, whereby you’re the weakest fish in the pond.

Party sync throws that out the window, a level 70 can forever exist at the top of any bracket they sync into. Imo an easy fix would be to give them gear equivalent to lower-mid of the bracket.

I can only speak from my own experience leveling in bgs, but did not seem a problem level 61 to 69. The green gear from winning the bgs is actually pretty good and sometimes turned blue. For lower brackets, the only ones I didn’t enjoy were the single level bracket, and the bracket that free trial players are in. Was orrible! That is a disparity situation that makes a 70 in a 61-69 bracket seem like a non-issue.

This is, sorry, completely wrong, the level 70 scales way better than even an equipped 69.

And the whole thing will become worse in the next months, because the equipment level of players will be lower than now.
Now you have a lot of people still wearing their SL gear (which is higher than quest rewards) and people that farmed the pre event on Alts (which is higher than quest gear).
In the next months you will see a lot of people with item levels below 200 in 61+ and they will get farmed massively due that stupid downscaling system.

It wasn’t a huge issue when I was levelling in BG’s at the beginning of the expansion either. Now there’s a bunch of level 70’s in full Conquest gear, bored or frustrated that they can’t climb in ranked and they are spilling into the 61-69 bracket. Making that bracket a complete waste of time for the opposing team.

Don’t forget, you actually have to win to get a box with gear in it. I literally lost 9-10 games the other night due to being wildly out-levelled in every match, none of them were even close.

It needs to stop, we don’t need 70’s padding games anymore, there are more than enough players. Either that or fix the scaling to penalise 70’s joining in the lower brackets.

I am not sure, but I think I saw somewhere that the 70 gear scales to 69 blue gear. Maybe they could scale it to the green gear.

I mean my 67 hunter is in the best old pvp gear and doing the same. The level 70s basicly get squished down to a twink level.

Point taken though they should squish the ilvl of level 70s down to like 170/180ish or somthing and the problem is solved.

Came here to say this. At this point, I think it is time to start a “Day X of asking to remove lvl 70s from low lvl BGs” post until it is addressed.

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Scale everybody to level 60 before level 70 from level 10 onward.

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