Bursty was one good thing about wotlk. insert baseline 20 minute+ games again and subscriber numbers will fall, for a good reason.
As i said, this season is better than what i experienced of BFA(S1/S2) and probably last legion season too
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It’s worst PvP ever. Im wondering, I can play arms warrior, cause he OP cause start at SL start. So if you are starts PvP later, you will lose a lot you even didn’t get 1400. Cause today, like example, I go to arena with 189 ilvl, and for my 1000+ MMR i’ve got 200+ ilvl and no skill required, they just anigilate me all the time.
So what’s good in your opinion, OP specs which can one shoot, or unkillable arms warrior? Or fkin WW monk? Did you see who play arenas? Did you see the global stats which classes in the top? Even top 100?
Yeah, I like fast PvP. But on high rate, with awesome gear ppl still have 20 mins battles except they losing retics or ww monks.
So, tell me please? I must get better, yeah?)))
187 is fine. there are many players with 195 ilvl sitting at 2700+ rating.
you have a 37% winrate at 1.2k rating with more than 100 games player in 2s and 3s each.
Im not trying to be toxic or ratingshame you but numbers dont lie.
you can get 1400 with 150 ilvl.
and then? you think you magically improve rating?
nah mop, wod gearing was miles ahead but its decent now.
yes and its not the fault of the game that people stuck at certain ratings.
yes. nothing else. you wont get better rating and gear until you accept that. but i can understand that accepting that isnt easy. Easier to make threads like this in the forums.
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pvp gearing is decent, if u are stuck at 1200-1400 rating it is likely to be other issues aswell.
i know of a sp+fire mage booth under 160 ilvl that pushed to 1500 with that gear with 70% win ratio, no joke mage had full lvl 50 gear.
With current catchup mechanic of conquest gear if u start play in week 10 of the current season u will have a cap of 5500 conquest which will grant u a nice amount of 200 ilvl gear pretty quick from arenas/bgs/pvp quests.
the current system favors people who do more then just pvp - yeah, but u can say that eventually someone who is stuck under 1800 will fall behind people who reach 1800-2100 because they will also be 10+ ilvl ahead.
it seems to me that if you spend time playing the game u will eventually get better gear.
if u spend ur time wishing u will get free gear for doing nothing… not so much.
As always, it’s a more of a skill problem, not a gear problem.
I am accept that I’m not the best. I can’t accept that I so bad. I’ve got 1400 easy with arms. And can’t with cat. I all my life played cat. And played good.
So I blame game exactly for lacks, not for my rating. My current rating it’s result and explanation.
So… not I’m not pretend for title best arena player.
WW monks or Paladins, probably.
There is kind of a problem. Go 3x3 with some ppl, at once ppl even join voice channel and got 1300+. Next days they offline – find another lose verything. After ppl says you have bad rating.
But gap between ilvl I feel on Arenas very well. So how I can get better?
Please, do not try point me that Im blaming game for a nothing. I always work hard for my goals, but this season is bad. PvP is broken. I can accept that I middle of player, not lower.
Even today played 12 matches 3s and win only 3. Why? Cause enemies was somehitng like this: WW/Hpal/Arms or Arms/Ench/HPal or Sub/Firemage/DC and my team in TOP by damage, but some reasons lose. Cause how I can kill arms with “Retalation” under crazy heal?
Again, going to statistics. Find for me 15 ilvl with 1600 rating… You’ll not find it. It’s impossible.
Tnx for your opinion. Tnx for not being toxic. I can accept Im not the best, but can’t accept that all good with game balance and I worst than enybody.
Main problem is find teammates. But how I can mange this have no idea. Ppl with whom I win usually offline after few days. I’ll tell about it above.
So everything balanced, all classes and specs play well, and I jsut stupid can’t use macros, cc healers and do not be one-shoted, right?
I didn’t say that, but being stuck at 1200 or 1400 rating isn’t only because you’re low geared. Believe me I know, I too suck at arenas 
But my point is why it’s was easy for arms warrior and why is so hard for feral, and why is so easy for Owl or WW monks?
I have a lot of problems with arena which is main. Find a team like example. Far better cc cause for 5 attempt cyclone works only 3. But 1400 as ppl says must be so easy… and when my team or me in 2s with healer have more damage than opponents with Hpal or DC or Rsham, and we lose… I can’t understand that. Or I can’t understand how I’m under saves in bear form under heal die on half of convoke channeling?
So again, I accept that I must get better, but not for 1400. At least for 1800. There is hard 1800 shouldn’t be a so easy.
Anyway, I cancel my subscribe. Cause seond dab addon in a row. I won’t pay for it anymore.
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Ha! WOD had the best sistem for gearing from pvp. Everyone could gear up from pvp fast and easy. And it was alt friendly. And ilvl scaling. Ha!
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hello Ion, didnt know you rolled a undead mage?
can you guys please make uhdk viable in pvp again? (reverse death strike nerfs plz ion)
anyway happy new year ion
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No its better then bfa thats it. Wod was faaar superior.
feral is harder to play than arms and arms is the best dps spec in 2s right now but you cant play good and stuck at 1200 rating at the same time. its not possible. you are doing the basics wrong. there are many many many many ferals in 2s at higher ratings.
no every spec in the game.
which gap? 187 ilvl is totally fine for your ambitions. you dont do 20% more dmg with 10 ilvl more.
statistically you are not “middle of player” right now.
i can find you many many examples of people with worse gear than you being way higher rated.
everyone has that problem.
there are more people in the position that you are in. struggling to climb at lower ratings. Eventually these people and you will adapt and improve and finally climb in rating. But its 100% up to you.
You dont seem to understand that you are playing the same game as everyone else. Everyone has to get gear, every other feral druid does not have different buttons than you have. Why do you think other players are higher rated?
Broxiz, https://check-pvp.fr/eu/Blackrock/Broxiz is a german guy. Arrogant and disrespectful to anything human as these people used to be. He is multi glad, he got his 206 gear and he is talking about 184 ilvl to be fine. For whom, for us casuals that we want to play the game pvp wise too? Or for arrogant, egotist 1st class people like you?
Find please.
Gear. That’s simple. Cause I’ve get 1100 for couple hours, after was pause cause of real life, work, etc… now I must catching up others. Again, I have 27000 HP they 32-34 and if You tell me that isn’t a difference… heh, ok. You just don’t even understand a problem, but give me advice. I really appreciate the critics to my side, but… I guess this PvP broken at all atm. I can’t accept my current rating cause of many things which I’ve be wrote here.
If you told me that Im don’t deserve 2100 – I would agree strongly. But I don’t have a such goal. I need this 1400 for upgrade gear and play BG don’t being useless. Cause ALREADY USELESS. Why? Gear. I can see the log. Damage done damage take. Sorry, I’m probably not awesome PvP gamer, but not stupid.
Ppl says that 187 and 200+ no difference, aha, setup a strem on you tube and show. Cause is not true. Cause 10+ difference in Gear is a gap which make impact.
So I blame myself and game. It’s not 100% my fault. It’s a bad balance.
When I play with healer I can bite Ferals, Rogues, some mages. But if there a HPala + WW or Rsham + Arms… no chances to win. All my burst War can survive without a heal. I have a stun + stun from healer and anyway War survive. Pal, the same.
So please, do not tell me that I’m so bad. My current raiting isn’t a my fault for 100% 2s unplayable now (also not only me have that thoughts).
Eh… it’s just PvW games with lot of toxic players. Blizzard lie as always, as always, every expantion the similar problems. Why I even wrote to this forum
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he will not understand, these people are arrogant like hell. Today i was against a team with 1 rogue and 2 ferals. They had no heal. My partner was dead in 1/10 of a second. Instantly. What would you think this great Broxiz would do? Nothing. He just managed to escape 1400-1600 wall pretty soon, and now can’t brag enough…
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lol you felt a little racist today?
you can get full 184 honor gear, 4 conquest pieces with minimum 200 ilvl and a legendary with 210+ and you have 190 ilvl. I did 2.1k on my boomy with 193 ilvl last week and it would 100% be possible to do that with lower gear. And we are not even talking about 2100. We talking about 1400 rating lol?? Are you guys trolling me and want me to say its impossible to reach 1400 with 180+ gear???
played with a friend who is new to hpala up to 1300 with 26:10 a few days ago when he was 130 ilvl.
now he is 158. he will be 1600+ rating be end of the week and he isnt even good at hpala.
another friend of me i played with. he is new to warrior and 1616 with 191 ilvl. we were 1800+ mmr all the time.
there are thousands of examples these are just 2 guys i know personally cba finding random examples
i can just repeat it gear isnt holding you back to get 1400 rating. never never never ever. If you really want to believe that okay.
You can even do the math and you will see 10 ilvl isnt that big of a difference on lower ratings.
what do i get when i stream for you how i get 1600 with 170 ilvl?
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there is no 1400 to 1600 wall hahah 
are you trolling? 
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Ahahahah arms warrior and hpala… That’s what I’m talking about. Man, you even don’t understand what about this topic. You see just player who blame game cause he not so good as you… sorry, but tnx it makes me smile 
Have goog game bro.
My best achievement is with my priest 2040, 2v2, previous season, with no PVE gear, only pvp (465). Right now, i managed to reach 1600 and then back 1500 in a matter of days. I dont claim i m like you, the multi gladi german, but i m not so noob,as u may try to indicate. So tell me
-isnt the game too bursty with broken abilities for specific classes?
-Holy paladin (yr example) was considered not the best at start of the expansion , but now , he looks like because of his instants. So isnt it a bad example indicating again the favoritism towards some classes or not?
-You are here to prove exactly what? That gear doesnt matter for players - multi gladi germans- like you? of course it doesnt. But there are thousands not so clever, intelligent or beautiful as you, for whom gear matters. And there are people you can check them easily in arenas with their pve gear who created kind of a wall for most casuals like me.
-Gear is a great of a problem and past expansions before legion had adressed the issue rather wisely. What do u really defend here, except your arrogance is inconceivable.
nah we played boomy hpala. And no not convoke boomy.(there are as much ferals as boomys in 2s above 1800)
ye i give up im just trying to help and explain to you that not your class or the game is preventing you from getting 1400. its just you. but cba anymore. good luck.
never said you are a noob im just saying there is no wall at 1400 rating.
there are no abilities without counterplay. Convoke is a bit cheesy and i like to see it nerfed even though there is plenty counterplay but other than that everytime someone dies to heavy burst its because the opponent didnt use defensives to counter in time. Its fast and you need to react quickly thats why it isnt beginner friendly but i personally and many others prefer fast paced meta over dampy 10 min+ game meta where nothing dies.
nobody knows what strong or not before an expansion. Holypala is strong right now but I dont really understand your point? Disc is on the same level and rshaman is only slightly worse.
im just explaining that having 191 ilvl or playing a certain spec is NOT holding you back of reaching 1400 or 1600 rating. People at these ratings make so many mistakes it doesnt even matter what spec you play or if you are 10 ilvl behind because there are fundamental things you should worry about like positioning, cd usage, dmg rotation etc.
this “wall” is a mythos just like “elo hell” in League of Legends. Of course from time to time there is a matchup where 5% more dmg would have won you the game but in general there are many other reasons why you lost and its not 5% dmg because of 10 ilvl more.
In the end of the day you guys can all believe what you want. I know it feels bad to accept that the person in front of the pc is the problem and not the game.
I have to accept that too when im asking myself why i am not a rank 1 gladiator. I often think im doing everything right but at the end of the day you and I have to accept that we are just not good enough (yet).
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