Just because you don’t see an issue doesn’t mean that we are not allowed to see an issue. This mount does not fit in with the other classic mounts. When I see footage of retail I always vomit a little in my mouth when I see al the absurde flying, hovering and furry mounts that pollute the screen. Nothing wrong with not wanting that in your classic experience.
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atleast the warpstalker keeps to the spirit of TBC compared to what a mechanical parrot would?
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I’m of the opinion that even if it moves around as a mob in the TBC world, doesn’t mean that the player should necessarily be able to mount it.
How does that warpstalker fit into the same stable as simple horses, tigers, and rams? (The mechanostrider is already a bit of an outsider here, but can be explained by gnomes being inventive).
If you don’t get why it’s a problem then it’s because you have lost touch with the concept of effort vs reward that was central the the premise of the original MMORPG.
Mounts are supposed to be earned. You’re supposed to work for them, earn the gold to buy them through application of effort and time. The really rare mounts such as Zulian Tiger etc. require the absolute max investment of time and effort.
Just buying a ‘rare’ mount from a cash shop with real money absolutely trashes this premise.
In retail mounts mean nothing. There’s no sense of specialness whatsoever, they’re given away in droves just for having an account.
TBC is supposed to be a recreation of the game as it was, not Outland with a cash shop.
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Tokens are not creating any more gold on server. If you sell token, you only get gold from other player, but that gold already existed, farmed by someone else. I’m not defending tokens, but seems like people thinks token is same as buying gold from Blizzard.
The game always had premium cosmetics that you could acquire by spending money on IRL stuff. Like the mini-Diablo you could get for the Vanilla collector’s edition and the Spectral Tiger and other TCG rewards in TBC and WotLK.
A person having, say, a Spectral Tiger doesn’t diminish the prestige of having, say, Ashes of Al’ar - because everyone knows where those items come from, and what’s associated with them. I would understand the complaint if the same rare mounts you can get in-game (like Al’ar) could also be bought through the cash shop - but afaik that’s never been the case, and cash shop cosmetics have always been things that you can’t acquire in-game (and vice versa).
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Not many - the most popular WotLK PS has a huge shop.
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And how many mini Diablos have you seen over the years? Want to get hold of one now in Classic? Good luck with that.
The collector’s edition items were limited edition, and extremely rare.
They were also just mini pets, not mounts.
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And how many Ashes of Al’ar or Fiery Warhorse Reins have you seen, over the years?
I mean, at the end of the day, you’re free to do w/e you want. But it kinda amuses me how some people are astonished as to how the majority of players aren’t rly all that concerned with the cash shop as a whole. Personally, I’m more concerned about what state will the PvE content be in (for example, what version of Solarian or Mag’theridon we’ll get)
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Because they are retailers, who want to ‘try out’ TBC, as they see it merely as ‘a bunch of new raids’. Retailers are conditioned to accept instant gratification, cash shops, and dumbed-down mechanics, because it’s all they know.
As to the other question I have never seen Ashes of Alar, but someone in my old guild back in around 2008 had Rivendare’s mount.
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I’ve never really played the game past WotLK, and I still don’t care. I just want to play PvE with my guildies. What about it sounds so weird and unacceptable to you?
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I explained above why I’m against store mounts. No need for me to repeat myself.
But why would I find someone ‘playing PvE with their guild’ weird and unacceptable? Where did you get that from?
Well, judging from sentences like “you have lost touch with the concept of effort vs reward that was central the the premise of the original MMORPG”, it does feel like you believe you’re speaking for more than just yourself. Which is why I’m trying to show you why, to some people, this stuff doesn’t really matter.
It’s not that they “have lost touch with the premise of the original MMORPGs”. It’s simply that, to them, the effort and the reward don’t lie in a bunch of cosmetics.
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Mounts are not cosmetics, they have actual function in game.
Yes but it’s the same for all mounts. Functionally-speaking, a Spectral Tiger and a Swift Palomino are identical for all purposes.
The only difference are 310% Flying mounts, but those aren’t available in the cash shop (so far), so I could see those as being a sticky point if they were - especially in TBC, where they’re extremely hard to obtain (only Ashes and the Gladiator mounts had 310% back then, iirc).
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Then for this reason alone i hope the mount gets released.
Would bring some welcome rest to the forums. You are always throwing oil where something is happening.
Besides this, let’s not go to far folks.
Some silly new mounts would be a bad idea.
And i am open for good ideas, so if i say it is bad, you must know it is serious
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That’s like saying ‘functionally spellcloth is the same as linen cloth’.
Except one requires high level, effort and long cooldowns, the other can be instantly looted from a L5 mob.
Same principle with the mounts. A non-unique mount can be purchased from any mount vendor, a Zulian Tiger requires massive dedication and commitment, along with a major time investment.
You can’t use linen for same purpose. Now you are really crazy.
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Uh… no, spellcloth isn’t functionally the same as linen cloth. You can’t craft Spellfire set with Linen Cloth.
Functionality has nothing to do with rarity, but with how it works/interacts with the game. For example, Witches Band and Band of Halos in TBC are functionally identical (they have the same exact stats), even if the former is notably harder to get (as it’s a drop from a seasonal boss, while the latter is a BoJ reward) and has a unique icon to boot.
Similarly, Spectral Tiger and Swift Palomino have different appearances, but they’re both 100% ground mounts for all purposes, so aside from the looks they work exactly the same.
You’re right that some people still care about cosmetics because of the effort involved. But many other people couldn’t care less - as far as I’m concerned, I care more about, say, Naxx gear than I would about the Swift Zulian Tiger. Especially the Tiger, since it boils down to sheer luck (something like Invincible in WotLK would be another matter).
And anyway, it’s worth reiterating that Swift Zulian Tiger and such mounts are not in the shop. If a Swift Palomino doesn’t diminish the achievement of getting a Swift Zulian Tiger, neither should a Spectral Tiger from TCG or a Warpstalker from the shop.
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Next step? If they are jew you will snitch them to gestapo?
get checked sir
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