There are some great single player games out there. Maybe you could try one of those instead.
I really enjoyed the Witcher for example but it’s not everyone’s cup of tea. you also get to make choices as you go.
There are some great single player games out there. Maybe you could try one of those instead.
I really enjoyed the Witcher for example but it’s not everyone’s cup of tea. you also get to make choices as you go.
I’ve just gone back to FFXIV and it’s like coming home even though I never really invested a huge amount of time there. The Free Company I was in (which I had expected to kick me for being absent for a year) were like “WELCOME BACK!! Wanna run some Eureka with us? How have you been?” And this is a pretty big company, they don’t need me for anything and most of these people had joined since I left so they didn’t even know me but acted like old friends.
I told them I needed time to figure out how to play my class again and they were all there helping me and it made me laugh as I was playing my monk with its dozens of abilities and positionals how the hardcore nerds in this game who run keys all day think they’re elite gamers with their 5 button rotations and addons that tell what to do and when to do it at every opportunity.
It’s so refreshing to be taking a break from those losers I cannot even tell you.
Another thing that drew me back is that the next expansion Shadowbringers will reintroduce the Trust system from FFXI that will let you solo MSQ instances. So the only game where I really enjoy grouping up is giving me a solo mode because it cares about all types of players.
I think you may be missing the point, personally I’m not a great people person, Im not great at making friends and I’m always the guy left out of the little cliques in guilds and for me its awkward as hell and uncomfortable. In a pinch ill do it but, if there was an option for a slower paced PuG experience id jump on it in a heartbeat.
because I remember the times when I had friends on wow and a guild I felt at home in and I’d like that style of content again but in the hectic and splintered community of modern wow I frankly don’t know where to start. So in the absence of that id love a more casual PuG, it lessens the awkwardness of of playing at a slower pace and feeling incompetent and the awkwardness of guilds being cliques of fries that generally ignore outsiders.
Some guilds will let socials/non raiders come to their offdays or alt runs. Others wont, it really does depend. I realise it can be harder to pug for some but there are some communities that deal do content in groups without that big push for high ilvl or achievements.
I realise not everyone likes to pug. I hated it and avoided it for years then a friend took me to lots of pugs and I’m not so timid with them any more.
It’s not the same experience and you know it. MMOs are like one big life simulation. Sometimes you work as a team and some times you go it alone.
If someone is shy or just prefers their own company, should they just stay in doors all day and check out of life?
No. There are plenty of fun things to do on your own and getting back to the game, it’s even better because you get to live an exciting virtual life with magic and dragons.
I don’t understand anyone that can’t understand the appeal of playing an MMO solo when that is basically what you do 80% of the time anyway.
I could very easily become a recluse, as long as I can have super fast internet and order anything and everything to be delivered
The dream.
I know you’re kidding but my life is pretty much like that right now because I work from home and set my own hours.
I’m not shy or anything in real life, it just worked out his way and I’m kinda fine with it. My issue with playing with other people in games is that I’m so used to doing what I want.
And it’s not just for my benefit. I could spend half an hour “auditioning” for a raid and if I was up-to-snuff end up shackled to these guys for an hour or so. But if the group turns out to be a bunch of ****holes or I decide that I wanna order Chinese food and get some work done instead, I’ll just quit and that helps nobody.
So it’s pugs for me, I can commit to 20 minutes or whatever but anything more and I’m out.
Trouble is, the majority of players in this game are just awful people, especially Horde players. I considered defecting but I don’t really like the way any of the male Alliance races look so I’m out. It shouldn’t be this hard to have fun in a game.
I’m actually not kidding. I rarely leave the house unless my family come round and drag me out and I have to do something.
I do walk the dog, so I guess that counts as going inside the outside world.
I get everything delivered to my home, even the grocery/supermarket shopping.
I really could become a recluse and I’d really enjoy it. I am very happy. I know people are different and some feel they go stir crazy if they stay in all the time.
I realise that is very different from the original topic. I know some people hate going to PuGs and the like which is why many love LFR/LFD. But for some there comes a point when they want to do something more challenging.
Didn’t we had something like that before, it was called scenarios in MOP, people could solo them or go with small parties, they were basically the story centric small dungeons. But Blizzard removed those after certain time since they weren’t very popular.
So, first off, this got way bigger than I thought it would. I was expecting maybe a couple of replies - ten at most, and that seemed extreme. Goes to show… something. I’ll figure out what later.
To address a common criticism: Yes, I’m aware it’s an MMO. It’s also a game that I enjoy playing, most of the time, when that playing doesn’t involve group content. I’d just like to reduce the points where group content is necessary. I remember I didn’t even do Tomb of Sargeras, too sick of the LFD and LFR groups, and I was terribly confused when I found out you ended up in orbit around Argus.
On the subject of difficulty, yeah, I realize this isn’t everyone’s cup of tea. The mage tower challenges were especially tricky for me, and I just barely managed a few of them, but only after a mountain of stress that made the whole thing feel… not really worth it. (I’m also still salty that I can’t use the Ghostblades skin as Subtlety. We’re the shadow magic ninja spec! Why are we stuck with some ugly teeth?!)
Finally: I did look for YouTube videos that just take you through the dungeon/raid, paying attention to the character dialogue and what’s going on. Unfortunately, all I found were “Look how my guild crushed this!” videos, usually with the player voices talking over everything, and the best I could hope for was that the resolution would be high enough to read the chatbox when it wasn’t immediately drowned out by system messages about somebody else’s loot. Plus, obviously, still doesn’t progress my quests.
And there’s that unhelpful response again that totally misses the point.
WoW, and other MMOs like it, direct most of the game play as a single player game and then throws in group content later, some of which you pretty much have to do if you’re the type of player who wants to get gear etc. (I’m not but there are those who are.)
Why should we go and play something else when we enjoy this and, sorry to repeat this but I have to since many folk don’t seem to get it, game play is directed mainly as single player!!
The OP is absolutely spot on - it would be great to have an option to enjoy the content of the group stuff but without the group if we want to. After all, it would make no difference to those players who do want to enjoy that content as a group.
Old Republic has this kind of option to finish all quests as solo, even dungeon ones, the rewards are non-existing, but you can see the content by playing alone, I think it works there well
@Maissisipuli This is what i was explaining earlier in this thread. It’s a working system there and also does not take away anything from group content. People do all modes happily.
There was nothing unhelpful about my response. But thanks for the unnecessary snarky comment.
That MVP is known on the forum for answering usually the questions in a way to promote more his/her own opinion/agenda than helping anyone, so don’t be surprised at all with answers like that coming from him/her. Because he/she doesn’t care about the fact that various types of the gamers are playing here and how most of them need something in the game so that it can be fun for them, but only about his/her own self interests.
Oh dear I see the hate squad are out.
MVPs are allowed to have their own opinions and we all do have them and express them. I am very active on the General Discussion forums and funnily enough I am either accused of having my own opinion and daring to take part in discussions or I’m accused of being a mole/shill for Blizzard. The irony is delicious.
As well as delightful comments like yours I do actually get people genuinely thanking me. So that makes up for every time I have to read one of these bitter little snide comments.
At first people had to get 40 to go into a raid.
Then it was reduced to 25.
After that 10m was added as an easier alternative.
After that came LFR, for which you just need to queue and press buttons, it’s hard to wipe even if you tried to.
Now you’re asking for solo mode? Is following a group too much? Throwing a couple of spells every now and then? Maybe we should add some kind of an escalator that goes through raid so you can sightsee without the trouble of moving.
What do you struggle with doing them in LFR? It is meant to be the most easy mode, with no requirements other than a basic ilvl. So that everyone can access the game. Do you have a friend you could queue with for moral support.
If you can do the mage towers you can certainly cope with the difficulty of the LFR. You don’t even have to talk to anyone while doing it. Most LFRs are fairly silent, I’ve been in the odd one with some banter. Occasionally you get the odd toxic fool.
Most videos of fights are their record of killing a boss, often for the first time. Or they are instructional type this is how to kill it videos. The cut scenes can usually be found on youtube but I’m not sure of a meaningful show you the fight text dialogue ones.
I know Nobbel does a lot of lore stuff and that can be very interesting but I’m not sure about raid dialogues that you are after.
My apologies, it wasn’t supposed to be snarky, I’m just frustrated with that kind of attitude/response and there have been a couple in this thread. I certainly meant no offense to you personally.