Well I’ve tanked though. For 4 years, 2 of them raiding mythic as a Guardian Druid. And yes, I did feel like a god most of that time despite the fact that Guardian Druids were considered weak in PvE most of that time.
Running around picking up 15 mobs, knocking them around, AoE CC’ing them again and again and again, cooldowns I can rotate to survive for 2 minutes with no healing against massive amounts of mobs, and a rotation with effectively 3 buttons.
The hardest part in playing that thing was to avoid getting repetitive motion injuries from the rotation (it’s exceedingly spammy) and making sure everybody else wasn’t dying to casts and other interruptable nonsense. Actually pulling them and putting them somewhere, keeping aggro and tanking them was extremely easy, which is why I could also manage to be a raid leader whilst doing all that despite honestly not being a terribly awesome player.
What I continue to suspect you’re doing is comparing good to godmode and therefore concluding that good is bad and godmode is fine. Quite honestly, if they were to make the remaining 3 tanks anything anywhere near like the 3 godmode ones the game would be absolutely fundamentally broken. The only way forward is to get things back into line.
It’s the same thing with healers in arena. Their mana regeneration and healing is so strong the game literally can’t end unless there’s a debuff that gradually nerfs them or massive amounts of unavoidable long-duration CC or absolutely colossal 1-shot capable cooldowns. Blizzard went with all three just to be safe. I mean what on Earth is even going on anymore?
It’s not even a good nerf to tanks. Literally a blanket 10% nerf to damage reduction from talents.
A 10% mitigation nerf won’t mean crap to a Protection Warrior, which has spell reflect, unlimited rage in multi-target situations, 10% passive leech, an additional 15% leech included in Ignore Pain, a 30% max HP heal on a 25 sec cooldown that no longer requires major sacrifices in player power to take, additional self-healing in Indomitable, the best physical damage mitigation in the game via critical blocking, and a defensive CD which lets them block spells for 20 seconds.
Classes like Guardian Druid which are very rage starved and play like a Fisher Price™ My First Tank will suffer hard from a 10% blanket nerf.
Asmongold’s Neltharus-soloing stint if anything shows how busted Protection Warriors are, and I’ve definitely seen that as a healer. Their health bars barely move at all and almost all of your healing is spent on keeping allies alive.
If you think they nerfed anything based on what a streamer did, in a day, you are nuts lmao.
Blizzard has access to all the data possible, for every single aspect of the game.
Do you really think that they aren’t using that data, opting to make these decisions using “info” from watching a stream?!
if you dont know anything about tanks and you never tanked or heal in your life before , then you should probably keep your nose clean , rather than pumping out in forums babbling expert opinion about stuff you dont know anything about .
i looked into your jacket your clearly a casual 18-20 andy at best and your giving very expert opinion about a role you never played in a content you never even breached the top 20 % .
you dont hope on twitter and give Elon musk business opinion as a regular employee , just a peace of mind .
I have. I’m just not tanking right now. I probably have more tanking experience than most people in this thread, being two years of mythic raiding tanking experience and more than 4 years total, not exactly sure how much.
But I don’t really see how that matters anyway. It’sa distraction from the issue: is this level of tank self-sustain good for the game? That’s what matters.
In Halls Of Infusion M0 I was 359 (yes 359 ilvl) BDK. Khajin the Unyielding Boss (the one you need to hide behind ice blocks) the entire group (friends of mine) died at 93% of the boss. I soloed the boss up until 18% then I ressed a DPS just because I was feeling bored.
Same I did for Magmatus the Mammoth Boss in Neltharion. I soloed the last 25% of the boss. First time I was soloing the last 50% but I died because the boss kept doing damage at the distance and I can’t heal myself if I don’t hit it…
… So yeah, I understand the need to nerf tanks, but why do I need a healer if he/she is dead anyway?
Buff the healer health or the healing spells, then nerf the tanks…
Well heres a video of someone commenting on em 2 days ago lol.
So clearly dropped longer then 5 hours ago.
Regardless to which, when u know forums have been screeching about dungeons being too easy due to tanks speedrunning them hard i find it weird ur contributing the nerfs because asmongold solo’d some packs of mobs in a dungeon.
Tanks have been soloing things for ages, including BFA and SL.
The dungeons were clearly overnerf3d when coming to live and in such tanks need tuning down to prevent us overpowering the dungeons in m+. I doubt they want a repeat of emerald nightmare in legion
dude this is another bait , can you stop please ? the asmongold thing happened like 7 days ago this videos from 2 days ago , please just stop stop stop … for love of god
your just constantly post baiting stuff to prove that the nerf happened before , idk why whats your point exactly …
No, going of the same evidence as you, it wasn’t because of asmon, my friend did it aswell, and i say that’s why they got nerfed.
Like you, and OP, i don’t need to show evidence of my claim, so therfor the reason tanks got nerfed is because my friend could solo packs.
No, you just look at things and try and fit them to your preconceived conclusion
As i said before, using your method, it’s clear that it got nerfed because my friend could solo packs.
I’m sad to say, using OP’s method of determining what is the cause for the nerf, i am afraid we have to dismiss what you said because i did not personally see it, therefor it could not be a reason
In the future, if you want to provide evidence for anything, i would recommend to start streaming.
That way you also get credit for things you had nothing to do with.
you first link a post thats completely false statement and does not match the timings that you mentioned earlier , then you post a video of some random youtube guy thats reacting to these nerfs about 3 days ago while the real asmongold thing took place 6 or 7 days ago ( depend on where you live ) and now your talking about the concept of the OP , gimmme a f ing break please .
oh dont worry , i expect nothing more here , after all im not dealing with a bunch of people who know what their talking about anyway . just having some fun exploring the wow community and their agendas .
to be honest , i heard a lot about wow forums and how absurd some people are but i never imagined the real experience would be this ridiculous , i mean take you for example and this whole timing thing that you brought up to prove asmon did it after the nerf which was wrong from the start to the end . Hilarious
Question is, does it really matter in the end? sure, they nerf a lot of classes (some think from m0, which is unlikely) but will be buffed later down the line.
Just the usual Blizzard shenanigans, also, the entire perspective that Blizzard nerfs things cus streamers say or makes videos about it is kind of double edged sword and I think there’s a lot of things going around behind the camera, video editing, etc etc, streamers got direct contacts to blizzard, so they probably ask several class pros or experts or whatever u wanna call it nowadays.
i personally believe this is more of a big streamer thing than getting expert opinion from reliable people . i dont think its wrong that they contact some reliable streamers like kalamazi or some other relevant names that i mentioned above , the problem is they some times over react to some stupid stuff like this just because some big guy like asmon is doing it .
i have a friend that plays feral druid and he was so happy that soda didnt stream any wow since DF because if he would im 100% sure we would see a lot more feral nerfs than we did and the spec would be back to its garbage state , this is not something new blizzard does it all the time for some reason they think its a pretty good idea to give streamers ( specially big ones ) huge props , they find it profitable for what ever reason they have . its actually the main reason they support this RWF thing so much cause it gives them a massive spike of viewership on twitch
AND IT AFFECTS EVERYONE ! thats the bad part incase your wondering
It’s a company after all, if someone like “Kalamazi” or “critcake” had a viewing like Asmongold, Maximum, they’d probably listen to them a bit more, but since those 2 examples have like +5 and up to +100k viewers on the daily and especially now with RWF happening, they probably just listen to them more, tho, asmongold isn’t really that knowledgeable about certain things he does have a lot of knowledge about the game in general, just like a true neckbeard.
