this whole arguement about blizz having data has been brought up multiple time throughout this thread and i proved it multiple time that they dont use their data to its full potential .
stop trying to convince ppl that blizz actually uses raw data to make changes , cause if they did ( which even that would not be the right approach ) we wouldnt spent the past 2 years in complete agony .
Feel free to ignore my first point.
Why isn’t this “impact” felt on broken specs ?
Some pretty popular streamers have been complaining that their spec was broken for YEARS.
who ? cause if your talking about someone like Sjele or some lock main or hunter main they are not popular , 1k concurrent viewer does not qualify againts 100k
it has , they have been consistently nerf havoc since the start of DF without having any valid data from the live servers anyway , and its continuing .
Havoc is one of the strongest spec rn…
Are you just butthurt that your specs got nerfed ? When blaming Blizzard is not enough, you try to find another target ?
Any feral or balance streamer since streams were a thing ? (with a few expections, like maybe 1 or 2 patch when they were viable)
Or Ziqo ? That dude is even a speaker at some events…
That depends. Do you have high skill players that shows the optimum of a class or spec? Yes. but should it come to the attention of Blizzard then they might not be there waiting with nerf bats to nerf the class or spec into oblivion.
When I read through it I was thinking of Rextroy. The infamous raid boss paladin vs orgrimmar guy.
He is one of the more visible bug hunters. Rextroy makes a video - other WoWtubers pick up on it - have some fun and make some content - Blizzard fixes said bugs.
Not sure what impact you were referring to on WoW. A lot of toons are now trying to get notice on Rextroy video by Asmongold knowing he will react.
what feral streamer ? what balance ? theres only 1 feral streamer and i would thank god if he didnt exist since the guy is so cringe , oh and btw if you didnt know he was the one that got 4tier Feral nerf back in s3 before it started thanks to a clip he made out of a premade De other side run , which was completely false data that blizzard took note of and nerfed the tier set of the literal most bottom tier spec of all time ( probably the entire expansion )
ziqo is a pvp streamer bro what are you even talking about ? your so lost …
and about the spec nerf and what im playing , im currently playing prot warr which suffered the least from these nerfs … im just sick of this game paying attention to streamers due to lack of viewer on twitch .
for some reason they think its a good idea to support live streams such as RWF and ppl like asmongold or soda just because they bump up their numbers a bit every once and while but they dont understand that its actually a mistake . Cause wow is not every game
The nerfs have been previewed for ages, they were posted up before asmongolds stream ur aware blizzard can internally track this information via statistics from game play right?
So PvP is not, will not and never has been a source of tuning ?
And I am the one who is clueless ?
Gimme a break.
I have not watched Twitch in a long, long time. But I’m pretty sure Sodapoppin’s a freaking druid (or was ?)
Also I’m pretty sure one of the lady that was commenting the MDI was a balance streamer. Too lazy to dig up the name, I’m confident someone here that has much more interests in streaming than me will find it.
Go get some water or something.
source and exact timing of the post before he streams please . ( cause im pretty sure i check wowhead every 10 minute and they were not posted before hes clip came out )
Lizzards everywhere… 
Naguura.
But I would be suprised if she ever provided valid feedback…
ofc she dosnt , she averages about 2 to max 3k concurrent viewer at her best .
asmongold averages about 70k to 100k , its not a skill thing its a big number on twitch thing .
but even if it was about skill both asmongold and nagura are none qualified for that matter , it would have to be Sanghelios or Lorgok or Cannex for boomkin.
Which is already a big time streamer.
You can make a living off having 300 viewers 
(I was just reacting and trying to help you 2 bickling about btw, just ignore me lmao)
Fyi, Asmon knows nothing about anything xept mount farms.
He doesn’t even play the end-game properly to have any knownledge about his own class.
Deserves a nerf regardless of whether only Asmon can do it or not. It’s broken - it should not be possible.
Maybe that or maybe it was because what he did completely broken and because I was playing with shamans at around the same time in arena and they were literally randomly one-shotting people with lightning bolt.
Blizzard are making the right decisions. A streamer calling something “op lol” should count for nothing, but a streamer is in a unique position to literally demonstrate live what the problem is and, if it is a problem, Blizzard is absolutely right to fix it. In fact I’d be disappointed if they didn’t.
yessir its deserved , its completely broken to be able to solo a couple of packs on an m0 run … its the mother of all contents and it should not be possible your right .
and ofc we wont mention that the 10 % nerf made that impossible 
you are no longer able to solo some packs in m0 , all thanks to uncle asmon and blizzard for taking note of hes very solid live content .
i greatly appreciate your very expert and convincing opinion im convinced now thx to you . silly me … what was i thinking
10% is nowhere near enough, and besides it isn’t even the right kind of nerf. The nerf should be to self-sustain, i.e. the ability for tanks to heal while tanking.
They’re also soloing huge packs of mobs in the open world - for example I saw Asmon pull as much as he could without evading, so around 70 or so, gnolls in The Azure Span, after which he proceeded to kill them all effortlessly. I try doing any of those things and I’m dead before I’ve even managed to gather the mobs - indeed any Frost Mage would be dead by then. Yes, Frost Mage, the historically best AoE grinders, that’s right. That got nerfed, this should be as well. You may laugh and scoff all you like at how it’s just M0, but it’s still unfair as hell.
The problem is worse than that though - we saw last expansion, and I’m sure in this expansion it’s going to be just as bad, how Death Knights were the best tanks beacuse they had so much self-sustain the healer actually didn’t need to heal at all, and the healer was there to cover for the damage the DPS was taking - but since they weren’t taking much the best healer was actually the healer with the highest damage output. Further, the best DPS is massive AoE; since practically infinite mobs can be tanked it’s all AoE damage and nothing else. Blizzard tried reigning it in by capping how many targets you would hit, but the real problem is tanks. It was always tanks.
In other words, tanks having their own built-in pocket healer completely subverts and ruins the whole structure of both DPS and healers in PvE content. It cannot be allowed.
i read the whole thing , and i have to say i greatly appreciate your analysis again , you seem like you have a lot of experience at tanking and you know what needs to be done about them .
agreed they should nerf tanks even further …
Absolutely.
My tanks have not been streamers but they can do the same.
To be fair to the party his tanking and how he positioned the mobs was really awful.