https://prnt.sc/zSjCV43vjtD8
I literally have nothing to say, lol.
Was waiting for someone else to point it. Sub is disgusting up to SL level. I have similar thoughts on it. Good part is that if Fire plays Glass Cannon then it isnât tanky like in SL but Fire/Sub RMP is definetely back.
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My immortal tanky turret got hit for that. 
I just didnât want to open a thread because, you know⌠LOL DESTRO TALKING ad hominem stuff because lack of proper arguments. The usual stuff.
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Got hit by 180k eviscerate and multiple other one around 100 130k around every time I faced one
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Just you wait for an Augmentation Evoker to beef that up for 600k+ so you die trough your def CD regardless 
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What the f⌠Thatâs crazy.
And I was just crying about a Evo doing 433k in one global, surge,tip the scale fire breath.
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I mean, there are a lot of classes/speccs that are completely crazy with their oneshots. People usually selectively cry about one but if you look at it objectively thereâs only a few classes that canât oneshot or do op damage in a small timeframe. Like yesterday i was queing with an ele who did this:
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Ah cheese build. Sorry but if you get killed by by no haste Elemental with this build itâs only your fault. This is weaker Versper. I only saw few Russians playing this. There is guy from US Dewoverload who is crafting all these one shots. Even he abandoned this build as itâs too much hussle to setup once people know.
Regarding Sub. I won maybe 2 games against it this season. Absolutely disgusting up to level of Shadowlands. Just keep in mind it also has one of the best tier sets. Oh boy⌠and we thought RMP is dead.
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That counts for almost every class/specc. Obviously the setup for this in particular is kinda annoying since it entirely revolves around a certain procc but the fact that such a thing even exists is stupid enough.
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https://www.twitch.tv/howtonio/clip/BadKindWoodpeckerDoggo-QUQMucTBF-1cHy9u
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I realized how op they are, at first I got stunlocked by a rogue on my DH behind pillar wanted to see what will happen if I donât trinket and I died during stunlock, didnât understand why my hp bar disappeared like that. It was another rogue in the Shadowlands arena, Cruicible.
Then in Tolvir this time I died much faster than the first one. Adapted my playstyle to pre measures, pre blurs, illidan style jumps to the air (uwu) before getting cced, cc immunities and I had minimum 3-4 wins from all lobbies but⌠this is a huge problem for newbies, people who canât pre use defensives and foresee setups. Sub rogues will make the game unplayable for newbies.
To give advice to pre use smth to survive is silly.
At some ratings players bite pre use :d
Iâm not saying about you, but I seen advices like that to new players.
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No way! Really?
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Itâs not about proc. You have to cast Icefury and Stormkeeper. You play Icefury talent that increases Nature Damage by 15% then Elemental Blast to proc Equilibrium and 2x Lightning Bolt. If you see someone using both Icefury and Stormkeeper you know what is going on. Just donât let him cast both and youâre good.
I agree itâs dumb but itâs weaker version of Versper to be fair. If someone is not aware he might die I agree but for me bigger issue is that again you have to learn every single CD of Sub and learn all the goes and fake goes as you will die in stunlock. Imo they should increase the stamina trinket set bonus.
There is no other class that can do it, Iâve bever seen any class killing me in stun before sub rogues.
Dw I know when to go behind pillarsâŚ
Iâm just telling only solution to it is pre used defensives and new players canât do that, only experienced ones can, which is a problem, shouldnât be like that.
Pre usage of defensives must be decisive factor for example taking 100k damage instead of 200 in a stun, it must not be the sole option to survive a stun attack.
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Some spec have to like rogue/shaman for example, without trinket you are dead 100% if you donât (and your team doesnât have save or peel).
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Have you gotten behind a pillar without a trinket against every class?.. Now thatâs what I call dedication!
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Yes it is. He posted it in chat. I can ask him later.
He said it works without the proc too but with it itâs 100% oneshot.
Most classes canât kill you in a stun, what part of it is not comprehensible?
Whoa whoa, no need to get heated! I was just impressed with your scientific approach of getting your butt handed to you.