Evasion + cloak needs to get nerfed. Rogues are ridiculously tanky at the moment, as well as noob friendly, with 2x vanish and cloak - that also removes bleeds.
Their damage needs to go down as well.
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Struck a nerve I see. Tells a lot about you that you immediately go to checkpvp so you can drool over other people’s stats, and you even dare to call anyone but yourself a clown lmao.
I enjoyed our little chat, have fun getting destroyed by rogues I guess.
Did you really enjoy enjoy it though heh
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The fact they fixed some bugs that stopped things working in their damage, but didn’t think to nerf their damage at the same time is pretty stupid. Their CDR (well almost all CDR imo) needs to go as well.
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Removing the second charge of vanish sounds like a good start.
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so whats that void thing anyway
I like how everyone on the post agrees that sub. rogue is beyond busted. 
Why didn’t this class get more nerfs. is beyond me. DH got 3x so far nerfed and it was justified and every single expansion they lave one rogue spec busted, LITERALLY EVERY.
Both sub and assassin are busted atm… ;( i almost like sub more because if he gets cc’ed he don’t do massive dmg where assa currently deals more dmg than affliction lock even when you cc them…
Like, wanna play the best dot class? =>Rogue
Wanna play the insane burst? Rogue…
Wanna… Rogue is the answer whatever it is😂
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idk guys rogue seemed pretty fine in that tournament to me… I mean kalvish only killed the enemy warlock through wall + darkness from like 70% health that one time, i dont see anything wrong with that.
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sub rogues are once again in a state of ridiculous opness
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To be honest, I don’t mind assa much right now. Their damage might be a bit over the top right now but their defensives are weak while playing against the other two specs feels like you’re either ccd or they have some defensive cd up 
But I’d much rather play against an op squishy class than against an op tanky class.
sub does not need a second vanish.
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Rogue use to be a high skill cap class but now you have so many panic buttons so many ways to reset the fight. You do one bad go and force defensives and then cheese the enemy with shadow duel on the next stun dr. Rogues act like they are gifted at the game while one shotting people through defensives in shadow duel.
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Sub need to be dealt with on many levels.
Second cloak should come at the cost - like when you have two cloaks during the duration of CoS you can only be healed by your own crimson vial, friendly beneficial effects no longer would work on you for the duration of the cloak and 5 seconds after that.
And CoS as any other immune like effect should be affected by dampening - like the more higher percentage of the dampening, the less immune should work.
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The last time rogues had a high skill cap was back in Cataclysm, I think.
Cataclysm subtlety was the best spec ever designed. I loved being undergeared, since I did not raid, and still putting 25-0s on the board in random BGs.
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Well, it was also one of the best specs the game has ever seen (speaking of its level of power vs other specs at the time).
The all time best rogue wow has ever seen quit 2020 but the game has already gone sour after mop pretty much, rip
Historically there have been 2 designs of sub rogue in PVP:
- High CC, high damage, but squishy
- High CC, low damage, but tanky
That’s it.
Now it is highest CC, highest damage, tankiest DPS of all
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they need to nerf all3 rog speccs all3 lock speccs and all3 mage speccs on top and ele and boomy
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300k eviscerate!!!