So after the first day of arena all I can say is rogues have ruined this game, rogues who dont even know what they are doing are killing people without a trinket in a cheap shot.
Sap is an absoloute joke at this point as you physically cannot stop it.
Its been this way all through the beta and how this has been allowed to go live is beyond me.
Man, cut this small indie company some slack.
… The intern probably got the numbers wrong on his calculator, they’ll fix it 
Just give up on the pvp.
The game was never balanced but right now Its so broken.
Its like few kindergarden kids play with dinosaur toys.
Doesnt matter whether they fix it or not now, the season has started and its absoloutly pathetic, no one should die in a cheap shotnin the best pvp gear in the game, holy paladins wearing plate and a shield still being dropped by melee damagenin 5 seconds is disgusting
Yeah, my spriest friend died today in the lockout from a rogue kicking his mind sear and then duelling him, he wasn’t pleased 
I played from vanilla until MOP and i know every expansion the start of the season this happens but ive never once seen anything as broken as this,
Shadow dance 1min cd?
2x shadow step?
Echoing reprimand hitting for 10k Lololol
Vanish
Evasion
Sprint
Cloak of shadows
Kidney shot 20 sec cd and stuns for 6 seconds
The legendary makes them crit for 4 seconds lmfao
Sap from miles away
Stealth abilities when not in stealth
Combo points on whatever target they want them on? Is there anythingnive missed?
Oh yeah a self heal
Blizzard im not angry im just disappointed 
You missed blind, smoke bomb, MS and a kick
trade defensives and youll be fine.
There used to be a time when stealth reduced movement speed and rogues needed to strike targets in the back.
It has always bothered me that sap has a longer range than aoe abilities and that even if they’re a complete idiot and get hit by aoe they can still use stealth abilities with subterfuge.
Only issue with current rogue is that alot of classes need to be out of a stun to use their damage reduction. So they do feel helpless and very scared to burn trinket, doesn’t help that rogue can hit you through parry / evade currently with SS and cheap shot during dance.
But rogues do very much hit hard like alot of classes do currently.
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and people still think rogues (especially sub) are highly skill capped… Its a joke, i just dont know what all these people giving feedback in beta and PTR actually do…
yeah trade defensives when they kill you in a 4 sec cheap shot thru pain supp
So your saying rogues are balanced actually, but the main problem is that people cant react…
I was able to kill as shadowpriest a drest in 4 sec,
i got nuked by a mage hunter in 2 sec,
i got zerged by a monk in similar time… Dmg’s are broken and legendaries dont help at all. Especially being able to get em so early.
What mainly is distrurbing is that u can actually avoid all these with a big defensive CD.
With rogues, u just cant. Because their kit is so full that they ll just dont care about.
Now take this and add it on a 2vs2 or 3vs3 scale. People can die within miliseconds.
If that’s the PvP you guys want, enjoy it. Blizzard clearly failed hard on this. We wanted faster paced arenas but…come on… Give them 1 stack of shadowdance, remove the shadowstep and BRING BACK THE “you must be behind a target” so rogues can be again a skilled-cap champion. Even then im not sure if i ll be happy enough. Being a must class for mythics for 2 whole expansions, being great or the best in pvp for the last…14 years and i can talk all day…is clearly not enough i guess…
they are so skilled that they yust going trought torns, counterstrik totem
It’s not about Rogues it’s about apes rerolling to FOTM every season. All these DH players who disappeared play Rogue now. WoW PvP is full of the biggest neckbeard tryhards who abuse every strong class.
Who boosted u to 2.1 lol ur a rival s4
you said its not rouges its only kyrian and drest right? 
now enjoy geting oneshot to 1.4 rouges after those nerfs to both kyrian and drest.
btw maybe things change within 20weeks when we get full gear dont worry.
one more thing you are right tho its not rouges its their dagger that killing us you are right
Each time I see you on the forums I’m never disappointed lmao roasting people 24/7