Because if you could, you wouldn’t pay the monthly subscription, which is why I told the OP to quit, but he won’t, which is my point.
He is paying the monthly subscription.
It’s a false equivalence. It’s a logical fallacy and I will explain why.
…Though honestly, you can just google the term or find a YouTube video.
If I make the claim that the WoW subscription of €9.99 a month is expensive, and then another person says that a ticket to the Taylor Swift Era Tour concert is €500, so therefore it’s not expensive at all, then that’s a false equivalence, because it seeks to treat two completely different forms of entertainment as being the same as far as price proposition goes when they’re obviously not. That leads to a warped view on what can be considered cheap and expensive within the frame of the discussion, i.e. the WoW subscription.
The Mercedes-Benz subscription cost is $60 per month. The WoW subscription is a bargain by comparison!
That is a false equivalence, and an exaggerated example to illustrate the point.
I see.
My point was that Blizzard only offers subscription models of various lengths going from long to longer to very long to extremely long, because that way they can charge a higher price than if they offered shorter subscription periods. They’re greedy pricks, basically.
That’s also why we’ve seen the inclusion of the 12 months subscription. It so they can get even more money from players. A 3 day subscription would be an awesome and flexible option to have, but Blizzard aren’t going to earn a lot of money if players start choosing a 3 day subscription before they quit instead of a 30 day subscription before they quit. So Blizzard simply don’t offer the option. Again, because they’re greedy pricks.
IF you only play 1 weekend with your brother i suggest to you go play some decent private server for free 
12,99 sub cost is not worth it even if you are rich because you are giving money to blizzard for nothing basically
It most absolutely is.
You get a stupid amount of hours for a very low cost per month.
If I didn’t play WoW or any other MMO I would’ve been going through non-sub games at an insane rate.
Horizon: Zero dawn lasted me about 20 hours and cost like 50€ to buy, I beat it over a weekend.
BG3 cost a bit more and has lasted me 270 hours but even that is going to run out of content once I’ve done the dark urge playthrough and romanced karlak.
Cyberpunk has gotten me some 50 hours of gameplay.
Slay the spire has gotten me some 200 hours.
Rimworld about 120 hours.
Divinity: Original sin 2 - about 60 hours and then I beat it in tactician first and then honour mode after getting a feel of the game.
WoW? Tens of thousands of hours, I’m approaching 2000 days /played across the account.
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I’ll make the opposite claim then.
A WoW expansion costs €50.
It has a lifespan of 2 years.
A WoW subscription of 1 month costs €11-€13.
The total price of accessing the WoW expansion you paid for throughout its relevant period is €270-€310.
Can I get a comparable video game experience to World of Warcraft over a 2 year period for less than €270-€310.
Yes, I believe I can.
Ergo WoW is an expensive video game product.
Which is cheap.
If I’d keep buying games for 50€ that I beat in 20 hours I’d be poor.
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I question the choice of games you’re buying then.
If you give me €310 to spend on Steam, then I can easily buy enough games to enjoy myself for 2 years as much as I would with a WoW expansion.
Easily.
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What game is going to get me the same amount of hours as WoW for the same cost? Just on my main priest this expansion I’ve put in some 2100 hours and then I have 2 other priests as well. Then I’ve got a paladin, DK and druid, the paladin has some 500 hours played in DF and the druid has 700 hours, the DK has some 200 hours.
My most played game on steam has 300 hours played.
Most games on steam that are worth playing can be beaten over a weekend and you will have double digit playtime, for a 50€ or more cost.
So first of all, I haven’t said that it’s a 1:1 comparison.
I’ve said that it costs €270-€310 to have access to WoW over the 2 year period that an expansion lasts (the expansion you have paid at least €50 for). That’s the price of enjoying the product for that length of time.
I argue that WoW is an expensive video game product, because what you’re paying €270-€310 for is 2 years of video game entertainment and nothing more.
Can I get 2 years of video game entertainment of a similar production quality for less than €270-€310? Yes, absolutely.
I can buy many games for that amount of money worth far more than 2 years of entertainment.
It’s not even close.
The underlining point here is that all you’re getting for your WoW subscription is access. And that access costs €11-€13 every single month.
I can buy Civilization VI on Steam. You know what the subscription cost to access that game is? 0. It doesn’t cost anything.
So all the money that WoW players spend on simply gaining access to the video game that they have already paid for is money other gamers can spend on buying actual games.
I can’t.
I’ll beat them over a weekend and then that’s done.
Maybe even over a day. Like the Trine games.
Yes, but forgive me for saying it, but the personal examples don’t really detract from the general point being made.
But it’s fine for you.
Okay.
Hypocrite.
I don’t wanna be rude to you, but that’s completely wrong. For this money you can buy xbox gamepass and have a huge range of different AAA games to choose from. You can also buy netflix and have way more entertainment for your money. Wow is really only worth it imo, if you play it weekly. If someone plays wow only a weekend a month, definitely not worth it.
I actually think wow should go F2P with season pass model and cosmetic shop, because we have it anyway already. Might as well go all the way.
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You’re being obtuse now.
I’m saying that a WoW expansion costs €270 to access for a 2 year period of time, and that €270 / 2 years is a high €/time ratio when compared to the gaming market in general where the ratio is much more favorable.
The reason why it’s unfavorable for WoW is of course because the subscription price doesn’t add anything. It only gives access, which for most other games doesn’t cost anything.
It is irrelevant whether you personally can squeeze 2000 hours of enjoyment out of Dragonflight, that doesn’t change the fact that the price of the product is €270-€310 / 2 years, and that this is an expensive cost relative to the length of its relevancy.
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Know what the price of Trine is for 5 hours of gameplay and then you’ve beaten it?
15€.
15€ for 5 hours. That’s not even an afternoon of playing. WoW is very cheap.
HZD? 50€ for 20 hours. That’s a weekend of playing. WoW is very cheap.
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We’re living in an age, where a dozen of companies want different subs from you. I think wow is definitely worth the sub cost though, but not if you barely play. But yeah, not everyone needs to play wow also in a way as well. It’s fine to just not play 
I’m going to quote Mivo above about that point:
Some games are designed to offer a very short gameplay experience, and the amount of gameplay you’re getting for your money is of course not very favorable. These tend to be artsy games.
WoW is a grinder. It’s designed to provide a ton of hours of replayability. But so are many other games. I mentioned Civilization VI just earlier.
And when you compare WoW to such games, then it is simply a very expensive product, because the amount of money you’re paying to access that WoW expansion within its 2 year lifespan is insanely high.
No.
I’d launch Civ and then close it within 10 minutes. THAT would be a costly experience.
Yeah once again you’re trying to refute a general point by using yourself as an example.
That’s not how proper argumentation works.
I think WoW is such a piece of crap that I don’t even play it for 1 minute anymore. So clearly it’s even worse!
See how that’s a poor retort?
Cost of buying a movie that lasts 2-3 hours: 7-15€.
Cost of going to cinema to watch a movie that’s 2-3 hours: 12-15€, if you only watch the movie and don’t buy any snacks or anything.
WoW beats that in bang for the buck.
Cost of going out and drinking? Easily up towards 150€. For a few hours. WoW beats it yet again.
Cost of going to an amusement park? 12-17€ just for the entry fee, for a few hours.
WoW is VERY cheap compared to other forms of entertainment.