Grim and tedious. You could learn the swing timer (And re learn it every time you get a new weapon). But no pallypower is just needlessly tedious.
Taste is different. I do not like to be dependent on addons.
What you find grim and tedious I find challenging and interesting.
Buff management is not challenging not interesting. Having to manually check every single person is correctly buffed is a complete pain. The only people who donât want addons tend to be slackers who donât want to pull their weight I find. They never do the things addons are designed to make easier to manage, they donât even try.
Well, thats your opinion, I normally find people using adons tending to panic if things does not go as they plan, but thatâs just my opinion.
Do you seal twist without any visual cue? Just when you feel youâre about to hit. Upi could not do that even after 10,000 hours on a dummy, let alone in the heat of a fight
He plays solo levelling experience on HC server. His opinions in this matter are basically irrelevant (no offense meant). Of course if you donât twist to maximize you dps output and donât buff entire raid with 4 other palas on a speed run, you find swing timer and pallypower irrelevant.
Yeah, I play HC solely, and have done for years, so no speedruns 
And I mostly heal or tank when in a group. I find DPS boring.
Still my opinion on addons or not is not irrelevant, as I too am a player, and a potential player on a no-addons realm.
If I played solo, Questie would not bother me
What I meant is, if you donât try to maximize your dps competitively, or need to buff entire raid with 3 other paladins when time spent buffing is an important consideration, of course you would find play without those addons âfun and challengingâ instead of âintolerableâ.
As I saaid, I do not DPS, thatâs boring, and I prefer the HC careful and aware playstyle to min-maxing.
You would probably, but not certainly - depending more on version and player base - find me on an addon-free server for the challenge. And this is what this thread is all about, noy my playstyle. Would you go there?
No, not even if I was paid to do it. I mean, Iâd have to be paid as a middle class job to even consider it. It would be like playing your favourite game, except itâs not, itâs an ugly, parody version of the game and you have one hand tied behing your back and your mouse jerks around every once in a while. It would unironically taint my memory of WoW.
I mean, if only version of WoW available to play in 2019 as a nostalgia hit was without addons, it wouldnât even cross my mind to return to WoW after an 8(?) year break. Thatâs how much I rely on addons and resent playing without them.
But as I said in my first post, gustibus non disputandum est, I have absolutely no argument agains people having a no-addon server. Or 1/4 xp server, or 10x xp server, you get random ability each level server (videos from that one private server were hilarious with deathcoil fireball warriors) I dunno LFR in vanilla and epics vendor server whatever, no accounting for taste.
I am thoroughly confused. Are we talking about vanilla or TBC? The title of the thread says TBC but here you are talking about HC.
When i mention swing timer addon, i was thinking of TBC. DPS paladin in vanilla arenât really competitive, no amount of addon will change that, but it doesnât really matter because outside of AQ40 and Naxx, raids arenât that demanding.
Good on you t o play tanks of healers, i also play paladin tank, in vanilla, in TBC, in cataclysm and soon in MOP.
But donât dismiss the DPS roll. Good DPS players in a raid can make all the difference. While the role has traditionally less pressure on them, itâs also a very competitive role, you can easily spot the weak of the strong (ahem, damage meter).
I am still hoping for a HC version of TBC
impossible, raids are far more deadly in TBC.
Why not let us try? Most people still die at around level 20 
Now you can see why some people want addons banned. Because like it or not, those addon people are forcing other people to play addons or exile them. If you donât have pally power, youâll be kicked from guild. If you donât have weak auras and dbms youâll be kicked from guild. And thatâs everywhere, those addon people are like plague. I was kicked from quest group once for not using that questie addon. The only way to oppose them is to disable addons for everyone.
Iâm really not sure if you are being sarcastic here or not. All the addons you named make it easier for others to interact with you. Pally power makes it easier for other palas, you have it for their sake, and so that everyone gets every pala buff they need and can have based on number of palas. Specific weak auras make it so that raid leader sees if you are buffed, if you have cloak equipped, what loot you already received, what you reserved, what is and isnât your BiS etc. DBM you need to have so that other get warnings about what debufs you get, if you are getting too close, if you are about to explode, plus it warns you about those things, making it more likely you donât mess up and lose everyone their freshly unbooned wbuffs. You donât get those raid addons for yourself, you get them for others in your raid. It it extremely obnoxious to have that one person in your raid who stubbornly refuses to make any concession for others. âI play how I like, and screw all of you and your time and sanity.â Of course you get replaced by a sane person.
Questie lets others in your party know what quests you are on, your progress with the quest, whether you looted a shared quest item, how many non shared quest items you have, when you are done etc. It is extremely convenient and you dont have to spend two minutes comparing stages of quest you are on, and how many more kills and drops you each need. I think itâs rude not to have it. If you want to group up with others, you can take a minimum steps to again make the experience not obnoxious for them. If you donât like the markers on the map and improved quest tracker, you can just disable those and have a questie just for others to know on how many bear arses you are currently sitting.
In fact, now that I typed all that out, I hope dearly they make that non-addon server for real so that I donât have to interact with you no addons weirdos ever again, trust me, you wonât be missed by anyone.
Then would not be classic experience!
Typical selfish avarage wow player⌠I would like to everyone plays as me! No one is forcing u to play with people who use addons but then problem is that greenpeace wow players who dont belive in addons, consumables, world buffs etc dont clear raid. U have guilds like that how they advertising themselves⌠chill, casual guild pink blue ponies or bunnies ⌠Enjoy!
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Your reply shows that you either didnt read what you reply to or you didnt understand it.
Yes the only way to get rid of the plague is to disable all addons for everyone. Its like with world buffs where you cant fight againts it and eventually everyone will have to obey and get them. As long as one guy gets the buff, eventually more will try to get it, to not look bad. People always inspect and compare. Its inevitable.
In retail addon situation is even worse. Even the chief designer of wow Ion admits that they design bosses with weak auras in mind. They design bosses in a way so that they are not too easy with all the automation. That means of course that if u dont have wa, you dont even need to try to beat the boss. It becomes impossible. Its a doom loop. Weakauras become better, so bosses become stronger, which leads to better weakauras etc.
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It would for me.
But after reading the answers in this thread, I begin to understand why we poor sods just wanting fun and relaxation from a game - and not a second job - are having such a hard time of it.