Suggestion: Class Trial changes

When you make a class trial, you play at level 110 with green gear. This doesn’t give a good feel of how a class actually plays at endgame. For example I main a Death Knight which is great fun with some haste and current gear, but a level 110 class trial Death Knight is slow and boring due to the fact it isn’t geared up.

My suggestion here is have all class trials start with gear stats equivalent to the current tier’s normal mode at the very least (or just the first tier if Blizzard don’t want to change it every patch), so people can get a good feel of how they actually play and feel at endgame.
If people want to buy a boost, of course they should be boosted with green gear as they are now, there should be a dialoge box warning people about this so they don’t feel lied to.

I just want to know how a class truly feels at endgame but I have no way of knowing without leveling one and gearing it myself which makes the class trial system a bit pointless in my opinion.

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Agreed tbh. The way class feels and plays at 110 and 120 is so different, they may as well be completely different classes.

Doesn’t help that the tutorial doesn’t allow all specs, but only one or two. I can’t try out frost or blood dk in the tutorial, only unholy. Why exactly?

I know you unlock all the skills/specs upon leaving the tutorial, but still…

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You can’t switch spec during a class trial anymore for some reason.

I think both revisions OP and Uruk have suggested would be very welcome.

Personally I find it better to practice a class by levelling it, but that’s just me.

As do I, my issue with the system is how I don’t know how a class feels at max level with decent gear so I have no idea if I’d like it. If I don’t like it then it feels like I’ve wasted my time leveling it.

That’s cool, but you run that risk with a class trial should you pay to free it. At least with levelling it’s only gold and time you’ve wasted, with unlocking a class trial that’s 49 quid you’ve spaffed away.

But we have to first keep in mind what’s the main goal of this class trial. I believe that it is meant to give a rough look at the core spells and gameplay, management system a class/spec will offer.

I don’t see this feature becoming a demonstration of how a raid geared player or pvp player could play this spec. This is not an achievable goal and requires too much maintenance.

Agreed.

It seems ridiculous at 120 we play a class with azerite gear, essences, BiS stats and corruptions.

Yet the tester is a level 110 with no stat priority/high stats or any of these secondary power sources

Your never gonna get a good feel from classes that are designed to not work without borrowed power.

But it’d be almost impossible for blizzard to really deliever a proper experience of how classes play aswell,

It is a problem, I dunno how fixable it really is though

Actually, you can if you relog.

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I mean if they just let us trial in Uldir gear for the entire expansion or Castle Nathria gear throughout Shadowlands then it shouldn’t need that much work. They change it every expansion as it is anyway. It won’t be as good as Ny’alotha stats but it’s still better than 110 greens.

Oh nice, never knew that lol.

The complain will remain the same.
Besides one good thing that come out of this class trial is the fact that if you liked playing the character you can just continue playing it by consuming a levelup token.

If you lend it some raid stuff and then take it away when starting questing, you will feel robbed!

it doesn’t change the fact that you will instantly loose a good amount of power and gear… You won’t be as surprised but you still feel like being tricked

I love the idea, but i see slight little problem, Blizzard can’t offer endgame items on trial characters, because they didn’t invent them yet (i mean start of expansion), for example in BFA, you could get Uldir gear for trial characters, but how relevant would it be now with essences and corruptions? 180 degree, and no, i don’t think Blizzard would upgrade every spec with endgame items from actual raid tier, too much hassle for them.

Trial should be recieved as: If you like how that spec works now, you will like it even more later in game.

This is very true, but which way do you mean?

A 110 entering BfA, even in “green” (not that there’s any such thing anymore, really) gear, is very strong, easily disposing of whole packs with one hand tied behind its back.

After the ravages of the Green Kryptonite process from 115 on, it becomes so debilitated at 120 that it gets rekt by exactly the same packs it pwned at 110.

Then with some gear … 340 is not bad … and at 380-400-ish it attains the same speed and power it had at 110.

So - which 120 do you mean?

Would be a very welcomed change :slight_smile:

That difference you feel? That’s the impact of borrowed power on a class, and not so much the stats. Your class trial character is how the core class gameplay feels, and across the board it’s truly dreadful.

It’s such a shame how much Blizzard needs lean on borrowed power to make classes feel fluid and enjoyable.

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120 with essences and azerite traits.

And therein lies the problem. (For Blizzard.)

I was thinking about what Fahratt said above:

But Blizzard could update the boost gear with each patch.

But … Trials get to keep the gear they get when boosting.

A genuine 8.3 boost would include 5 or 6 R3 Essences, Nazjatar open, Cloak Level 1, N’Zoth Assaults open, 450 (420?) gear. To be fair, I don’t think Corruptions would be expected.

Blizzard snookered themselves, and us, with the two added systems of Essences and Cloak/Corruption. Now every new character has to recapitulate the changes of direction. Usually, coming back in the last patch means you can hop into pre-raid gear quickly and go, not have to retrace the patches you skipped.

You are optimistic with this :smiley: i can’t imagine blizzard adding optimal traits, essences, or even corruptions for 36 classes, then changing everything for shadowlands raid tier 1, because making trial character in day 1 of Shadowlands would give you huge hint what will be meta after you gear your fresh char, don’t you think? If people could get endgame items with their Demon Hunters and Outlaw rogues on trials before they picked Enha shamans they would definetly go DH or Rogue for BFA expansion :slight_smile: