Sunken Temple: Are you enjoying it?

I was hoping we get st as raid as I always loved the dungeon. However the nerfs made it too easy which made mechanics meaningless after that. Tunning a raid properly is make or break. Too hard or too easy are equally bad.

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it will be too hard for over 50% people even in last week of p3. good players don’t realise how good they are comparing to casuals

I was thinking about this with the raid actually. Did they intend for this raid for newcomers, Raiders of Era, bored WOTLK raiders, Retail raiders sightseeing?

the raids is meant to be difficult for a “semi-raiding guild” according to Aggrend.
“Which” type of “semi-raiding guild”?

Gonna be interesting to see the raid numbers going forward.
Personally I’m more annoyed at the change to 20man than the difficulty.

It’s people with years of experience raiding in retail vs people who never did active (retail) raiding, don’t use add-ons or WA and plus don’t care / bother to learn and prepare tactics.
Thats what sod has to deal with and so far the Devs are not that successful with it.

A lot of people associate an MMORPG with a social experience of adventure and discovery. But retail wow made that into mechanical heavy boss fights. Thats the clash we see here

I thought it was perfect before the last nerf. It’s really good now, I can’t give my full opinion on it because P4 Raids ain’t out yet. If the difficuilty jump is insane then it’s the worst raid possible, it shouldn’t of been nerfed but the raid is like difficulty of when ST first came out

(not as it would be if it was scaled to 60. I’m going to expand on this if i’m not making sense, if I am ignore this part. When I mean not scaled to 60 I mean the health stays the same, the amount of damage is the same, they put thrash back in and difficulty of mechanics deal the same amount of damage)

As a whole it’s a fun experience, I feel like i’m going from boss to boss a lot quicker, probably a nod to it being 20-man, running back when you wipe is quick. The layout isn’t confusing, the amount of loot is good, like i’m in with 13 other dps/tank paladins and only 1 person didn’t get gear within that selection (we do MS>OS+1). Dialogue? I love the Aesthetic. The amount of bosses is really nice aswell, it feels very diverse and keeps me thinking (sometimes)

Truth

Not enough people, different languages (europe servers), differently minded players, and so on

I don’t like raiding, never have. 10 mans could still pass for simple dungeon runs but not this.
The more SoD advances the closer it gets to retail and the raid or die mentality. They obviously don’t care about PvP or they would’ve done more than just recycle the STV event.
A new BG would’ve been nice instead of nightmare incursions but I guess these devs only care about PvE which is ironic because there’s 3X more PvP servers than PvE but whatever.
P3 just isn’t for me and P4 will just be more of the same with even more emphasis on larger and more complex raids so I’m out.

If they can do this prices will drop to 2-5g. Which is good for all of us.