Sounds like it to me.
He literally doesn’t mention that anywhere in that reply. So how did you come to that conclusion?
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Actually he does neither, at least not explicitely, but arguing in favor of FOMO is the other extreme end of the spectrum and is just as bad for the long term health of the game as it is to give away valuable and established items via twitch drop.
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I disagree that it’s just as bad.
That’s the best part you don’t need to do it
and no one will ever remember that you didn’t want to
If saying it’s a 9 instead of a 10 on that scale makes you feel better…
It still is an extreme - one that totally disregards most of what mounts like this have become over the years, for the sake of driving up twitch metrics.
Extremes are never good.
For TCG mounts I simply don’t agree.
All you needed to get one was money. There’s no prestige, no achievement, no effort to it. In other words: They’re perfect for stuff like Twitch drops.
If you would be talking about mythic raid mounts, PvP ranking mounts and such things, then I could see your point.
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That’s not how you spell ‘blind luck’…just saying
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That was already discussed and refuted. If you were talking about shop mounts, such as the Grinning Reaver, that would be something different. Those are and always have been something you got for “swiping your credit card” with no meaning beyond that.
Regarding TCG items, those were significantly different in that their main purpose was never so cut-and-dry. More importantly: Even if one were to accept your point, they were always treated as a collectible - something “giving them away for free en masse” is diametrically opposed to that.
Even more importantly: People have added value to those items via trading. They hunted them, invested tons of gold and time to get them and thus quite transformed them into something greater.
But most importantly: blizzard has said as much when they stated at least one TCG mount would not come back as twitch drop for this very reason. They directly acknowledged the time and effort people have invested. And by doing this, they indirectly said this is true for all TCG items, just with a different order of magnitude attached to them.
It is simply because of the interest of making the release of a new expansion on twitch as big as possible, combined with utter cost-cutting BS that denies us a simple yet modern remake that would make a way better twitch drop and circumvent ALL of the issues, we do have to put up with an arbitrary decision yet again.
And that’s not a good thing.
I think that that is where we don’t have the same mindset. I view what you describe as a negative thing. Making it available to more people to collect and use is much better imo.
We’ll never agree and that’s fine.
Regardless; it is happening and I hope they keep doing it.
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Same as the TCG-items. They were also obtainable outside of any in-game activity.
You can choose to buy the Ghastly Charger for a mere $1500 at ebay or $1300 at wowtcgloot if you want to save a few bucks.
… or you can leave a twitch-stream going for 4 hours.
There is no “effort” or “prestige” in any of those options - but it is a really cool mount.
Blizzard decides those terms
and at this moment in time they believe that those who support streamers who stream wow deserve this mount, which is why they give it to those that do.
Can we get the pet some other way? What if you don’t watch streams why would you want to pay money to someone you don’t even watch just to get the pet?
Good luck with the card pack rng I guess?
This twitch streamer support option is already an alternative to the card packs
Personally I’m sleeping on it until they bring out the big ones like el pollo grande
I like people arguing in favor of blizzard, especially after the steelseries promo
These are soulless jusks thinking in dollar signs making those decisions. blizzard can be proud, fanboys will always jump into the fray, ready to defend it
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You really should read at least some of the thread, because then you wouldn’t have had to make your point: FOMO is bad and TCG items should absolutely return, but in ways that are respectful to what people have formed them into and balanced, like they did with T3.
Another example: Making a HD reskin of TCG mounts as drop while the OG can be earned ingame would be sooo much better.
We have to stop thinking only in extremes, we can have them not devalued via drop and still have them available ingame again.
Why? There’s no respect earned. That was my point.
I’d love HD reskins in general. I’m not one of those ‘old is better’ when it comes to WoW. I like my models and textures new and crisp and high rez.
I simply disagree that it devalues them because they have no value in my eyes.
Not within the game anyway; and I really, really couldn’t care less about any real money prices being decimated.
I think you should touch grass if you can only see posts in such a black and white format
they asked for an alternative, I simply informed them: this is the alternative
this isn’t me supporting or criticizing anyone, this is simply me saying left is left and right is right
People investing tons of time and earned gold, in an effort to ultimately achieve their coveted TCG mount is not prestigious? By that logic we could give the Brutosaur (or any other rare, not skill based item) away via twitch drop.
That’s a route you don’t want to go down arguing, trust me.
It’s one thing if you don’t see value in that and that’s okay. You’re entitled to your opinion and to express it, but you can’t argue against something so fundamental as people investing so much over the years IS value added.
You’re free to not care and be as indifferent as you wish beyond simply liking this decision.
But that isn’t much of an argument against the myriads of issues and better alternatives that have been discussed.
PS: Yes, nobody should pay any consideration to the third market. If they crash, so be it.
To claim that that is the normal path to such a mount is very, very disingenuous.
Most didn’t do that. They swiped their credit card and that’s all they did.
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People also have always traded the codes ingame for gold and later directly. If you look up discord groups and wow forums where people have relentlessly offered to trade and sell TCG items for gold, or simply using auction house database sites with thousands of successfull auctions tracked, you’ll see that those far outnumber the items sold for real money, especially since they cost thousands upon thousands of real money.
You’ll have to use the waybackmachine though and sift through the raw data yourself, as it never has been properly sorted.