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It devalues the incredibly expensive third party market for them. Can’t see it devalues the mount itself.

Scratching a strip off to get a mount isn’t really something I see as being devalued by being a twitch drop. They seem pretty much on par there.

Sometimes it’s nice to have something more involved for a mount. I thoroughly enjoyed Kua’fon’s journey in BfA but by no means do I want to see this for lots of mounts. Once in a blue moon is nice.

DAMMIT! Now I have to watch Towelliee for 4 hours again. Life is already hard enough you know!

I don’t see why any player would ever favor rewards being obtained through twitch or the store or prime or elsewhere, versus being obtained by playing the game.

I feel like there’s some betrayal here by Blizzard.

Because I have certainly been beating the drum for many years that Blizzard should bring back unobtainable items and rewards and other forms of content.

What’s of course implied in that request is a desire to see the game being enriched by more things being added (back) to it again.

But Blizzard fulfilled that wish in a monkey paw manner, and instead chose to make these items available again through marketing schemes and monetary purchases.

And that’s just not very respectful I think. That’s a deliberate attempt to abuse my desire for these unobtainable items by forcing me to abide by Blizzard’s marketing gimmicks in order to get them, rather than doing some gameplay activities in WoW to get them – which was the desire in the first place!

In that way I don’t like Blizzard’s approach here. Because it feels like they take advantage of people’s wishes to manipulate them into doing something that they really have no desire to do.

I want Blizzard to put the stuff back into WoW that they took out.
I don’t want to sit on twitch or give money to streamers in order to “earn” those things.
I shouldn’t have to!
Just put the damn things in the game!! How hard can it be?!

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To me degenerate consumer behaviour is taking on massive levels of high interest debt to “buy” garbage to try make people I don’t know think I’m cool.

Leaving Twitch running on a phone or laptop is nowhere near that bad as far as I’m concerned.

And I don’t see why any player would be upset at getting a free mount for having twitch on for a few hours, with or without sound.

I don’t have to play another game, I don’t have to buy another game, I don’t have to buy anything from the wow store. I simply tune in to a World of Warcraft stream.

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I’m upset because I don’t want to sit on freaking twitch, with sound or not, just to earn a mount that I think Blizzard should have added to the game instead. Make it a freaking reward for doing something in the game rather than being on twitch for 4 hours. Like, I’m here to play WoW! So put the damn things in WoW, not on twitch!

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You can play wow and totally ignore any stream.

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there are several aspects to any mount. making a rare tcg piece a twitch drop makes it less valuable.
not the part where you like looking at it, or riding it. but the part where it is appreciated for how rare it is and how it has been traded by players, bought from the ah etc.
but ye, a mount you get via twitch is already worth less. the way you get it counts just as its looks etc.

that’s not rocket science

that wouldn’t be a problem if it was a new mount or a recolor. either of those were perfectly fine

You seem oblivious to the point I’m making, or you’re being deliberately obtuse.

I have the Swift Spectral Tiger.

If Blizzard makes it available in the game by completing an epic questline, defeating a tough boss encounter, or finishing a hard grind, then I’ll applaud them like a massive fanboy: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

If however Blizzard makes the Swift Spectral Tiger available through a promotional offer like a long subscription deal, a legendary expansion edition, or an expensive purchase on the Online Store, or through other means of marketing, like buying chicken nuggets from KFC or signing up for Amazon Prime or collecting codes from Monster Dew bottles, then I’ll be furious and angry like never before: :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: :face_with_symbols_over_mouth:

The same holds true for this current pet and mount. Blizzard are dismissing the gameplay experience in order to elevate the product experience.
And I’m not here for a freaking product experience! I’m here to have an epic gameplay experience!

Anyway, it’s dinner time. :upside_down_face:

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That’s marketing. Nowadays, games are best promoted via streaming. If you own a company and wish to advertise, wouldn’t you choose the most suitable platform? I understand your perspective, but ultimately, it’s all about business.

It’s not rocket science to understand that not everyone agree with your personal sense of what makes something valuable. Scarcity due to it no longer being available from a system that isn’t even produced anymore is not what makes something valueable to me. You can hold huge value in that. More power to you. I don’t personally think any of those mounts ar worth the IRL money they go for.

To me that most sought after cat mount will be nothing more than an ugly ghost cat mount. I wouldn’t say no to a freebie via twitch but on the other hand it’s not a mount that excites me. No mount collector is going to say no to another addition to the collection.

The TCG mount with the most charm/novely is probably the cockerel mount. But I don’t think we’ll see the Magic Rooster Egg nor the Spectral Tiger added to these giveaways either via Twitch or the Trading Post. One can live in hope though.

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I find it a bit weird you have to buy subs for the second reward, not the buying part mind you but the fact that you inflate someone’s channel with 1 time subs looking it gained more traction while they will probably be dropped next month.

I think we simply disagree, but nothing is stopping you from playing wow and getting the mount. I don’t think TCG quest lines belong in WoW personally. They come from scratch cards.

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I never go for the subs bit either, I’m happy to get the free mount itself but I never do the other part. I’ll go without.

Probably the only time I bother with twitch is for promotions like this. Usually OW or WoW.

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Exploitation.

That’s also what it is.

Exploiting your customers’ desires to make them partake in your marketing by dangling a carrot in front of them.

As a customer, that’s not how I want Blizzard to perceive me or treat me.

Anyway, food, as I said.

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I’m sitting on their keyboard while typing from my phone, so something is stopping Jito from playing WoW right now.

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Are you a cat?

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No i’m fat.

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i objectively listed what contributes to a mount being desired and you reply by saying that is not shared by everyone? huh? ive not given you a piece of opinion. sure not everyone will share every aspect, there are millions of players. you might not do so either. that’s okay. but that is not remotely an argument against this being a problem to many who feel conflicted.