So, not done it myself yet. But I had a 6 Necrotic Wake key today. Was in a group with guildies and asked if they wanted to do it. The healer that I’ve been with for all of Dragonflight and pushed multiple keys over 20 etc said a flat out, big no. And I trust his judgement on these things.
So would not surprise me if things are in need of tuning.
Idk did u timed in sl 10+ key with that way of thinking shield was used especially on tyrannical weeks but in your grps was it seems not.
So grp dont have dps to kill boss fast and u as tank will troll and not use shield to reduce dmg on adds that radiate aoe dmg to help healer to heal u squishy tank and grp. Dps take spear and u only weapon that can use stupid shield dont pickup because zug zug brain thinks we dont neeed it… 
I actually timed +15 easily (and higher), in PvP gear back then. Not sure if it was tyrannical but surely did it as well. I don’t recall healing EVER being an issue. So, no. Nobody ever used a shield in my group.
No clue what you are trying to say… tanks squishy? Are we even playing the same game? When were tanks squishy the last time?
If you used shield then you are the first person I ever heard of using the shield. Every single group I was in was using spear, obviously. And nobody ever had an issue healing 1-2 adds in SL. If you had an issue healing 2 adds, you obviously killed one… like… did you even play SL?
Then your group was doing something seriously wrong, I’ve done it 3 times on +6 and I end at 1-1.1.2 million hps every time.
This boss is no different than khajin in halls of infusion in the regard that there’s constant damage that you need to heal.
7 with pug , havent played much this week tho .
Idk why it matters , its easiest strat rn , time isnt issue there, healers strugling and wiping is .
Stichflesh is very much a completely different fight now compared to Shadowlands, which is absolutely wrecking people. You either have insane dps to zerg him down or you really need to focus the big adds so they don´t stack the aoe too high. It´s barely healable if they fall over after they do their 3rd hook to regrab the doc.
Really took me some time understanding this aswell, but with an “average” group of ~ilvl 600 dps players you can focus the doc when he first enters with 2mins+hero and get enough passive cleave dmg on the big one to barely make it, but from then on you really need to swap focus to the big guys and just passively cleave the doc if he´s not in range to be killed in one cycle.
Overall i think M+ is really overtuned compared to the rewards, the jump on 4 is quite steep and gameplay wise that would be fine, but it just feels really bad compared to delves where you can walk through eyes closed with the same group and get much better rewards. Especially considering how long it takes for M+ only players to gear up on myth track i don´t think it was ever less possible to play M+ only if you want to push past 12. It definitely might kill the expansion for me because i will not raid mythic and just running far behind on gear is not enjoyable at all if you know you could play the content but you are locked out of it due to the gearing system.
This is exactly what I thought, which is why I was looking online if anyone else had the same experience. But the answer is: No
They did nothing wrong but having “too low” dps. Not standing in aoe, not failing hooks. The aoe damage of 2 adds is simply absurd.
Nobody speaks about mechanics, is about sheer numbers, so the comparison is kinda pointless, especially with a different expansion.
Because I highly doubt you did it this expansion if you think you can keep one add alive to fire 3 hooks lmao
My opinion is the following :
It is a boss that demands good execution. If you dont, you die.
But it is nowhere near the damage the last boss of Grim Batol and City of Threads… Those … dunno… im doing something wrong there or they should be checked out.
thats because of wepon reworks.
its completly different dungeon .
since tyranical is now always up lets go by tyranical weeks what most pugs did.
1st boss - goliath was a must - pull of trash on boss - spear and pump with bl . if you failed ? key was dead there and then
3rd boss - spear + possible hammers if needed - and likely 1 orb if group wasnt sure they can down it. + BL so abomination was almost instant dead and you were just nuking boss. boss was down on 50-60 % of health in first seconds it was down. and they you had to kill him before 2 abos were up or you were dead in pugs.
those 2 changes have collosal impact on that dungeon. thats why it was so "easy " in SL.
well in grim batol its most likely people not standing in safe place. and yeah that place is so minimal 
stithflesh is annoying because if you miss first hook because it went on derpy person ? you can just wipe there and then .
well that was the same back in SL too - if you had 2 abominations your tank was shredeed - you ahd to kil lhim before 2 abos were up
I am still trying to figure out that fight. But that “safe space” with the 3 swirlies + tentacles … More like a death trap to me… 
Dunno… im not going to say its overtuned (yet) but it hits significantly harder than all other bosses of Grim Batol.
I did it on +7 on my druid as dps and the healer was doing 1 million hps.
How are you doing 50% more on a +6, if they’re doing nothing wrong?
For this we need more data. As I said my party did around 500-700k dps, I assume your guys were able to kill one add faster and you barely had 2 adds up, while your team using defensives somewhat properly. My hps, most likely, comes from 2 adds being up for too long. I guess proper usage of spears is a must have here too but it doesn’t change the fact that the boss is overtuned.
Taking a look at the top M+ players, I noticed that some people can do other keys on higher level and/or fail NW or have it “much” lower, like the #38 guys having everything on +10 but NW on +7.
I’ll try to collect more data on my next run.
Btw, I did earlier +7 on my Rdruid and the first boss literally one shot me (the spell that summons the adds) at 4,7 mil hp without defensive CDs. The issue is that if I get unlucky and targeted 3 times, I am basically done. I literally have to adjust my entire build for this scenario or adjust the group for an external def CD. That’s not required in any dungeon so far as I could see. I am 100% sure we will see adjustments to this very, very soon.
Are you new to m+ as a resto druid?
You can shift into bear for it. You’ll have more than a million hp left instead of getting one shot, without pressing defensives. With your current gear, you won’t get one shot by it up to +9, just by shifting into bear, without pressing defensives. With barkskin, you’ll live it without getting oneshot up to +11 in your current gear, you shouldn’t be dying to it on a +7 even without pressing defensive CDs.
You are actually right, I never had to use bear form in PvE ever, so I actually completely forgot about it, especially on a range spell.
I just did +5 on my shaman and the healing was absolutely easy on third boss btw.
https://imgur.com/dOPzbi0
It ended up being slightly less healing than your +6 but the add died pretty much instant this time when the boss got hooked. So if I had to guess you prolly had some real good dps with you. Something that’s very rare for me this season.
It’s a bad design when the only way is to use all three spears for this boss because he is too overtuned.
Had no issues with Stitchflesh not even once, he’s the same difficulty as i remember during shadowlands, just do the mechanics right, he’s also a dps check if you lack dps you get swarmed.
My average HPS on him in +7 is 1.3-1.5M, but I’ve had 1.6M wipes. In +9 the average is 1.1M…
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