I wasn’t sure whether to post here , in the Hunter sub forums or make an in-game suggestion but…
When having a ranged weapon equipped you cannot use kill shot
Seems a bit ridiculous no? Here we go
The idea of being able to switch between a ranged weapon and a melee is MASSIVELY underrated. I mean this is great? No other spec has this type of hybrid - switch like feel and I think it should be built upon. Have a mix of abilities ranged and melee and have them interact with one another
This for me anyway, and I can’t speak for other hunters but it would be so exciting. Hopefully open up new creative builds , and it can also feed into the lore and fantasy of a survival hunter more. They can use both ranged and melee , they use traps , strategy and creativity rather than relying heavily on their pet or pure ranged damage.
The only issue I could potentially see , is balancing it in PvP… but being honest PvP usually is really unbalanced anyway so who cares?
Let me know your thoughts
Hopefully the hunters that want survival to return to melee can see some potential with an added layer of fun, dynamic, innovating playstyle as a complete hybrid
I once levelled a hunter using Survival and a ranged weapon and found it more fun than melee Survival, the only problem is that after so long (and certain talents become available) it becomes beneficial to go back to melee again.
I respect the difference of opinion , but can I ask why? Marksman is pure ranged Dps physical, so surely that’s your jam? You can have a pet or not pet so asking for SV to become pure ranged confuses me.
I see Survival hunter in the same way as outlaw rogue. They are the two most interesting specs in the game (for me personally anyway) and I feel having a hybrid with weapon switching would be amazing. Real old school vibes. Only issue is the hunter population would sky rocket
A playstyle of survival but with ranged weapons feels like a better playstyle to me.
My hunter is MM only because a ranged survival spec no longer exists and I don’t like BMs current playstyle.
I didn’t say to change it to pure ranged, having a ranged survival option would be nice. Its not like WoW never had a ranged survival spec before. They destroyed the ranged version of survival to give the melee one when they could have created a new spec for melee, it would have benefitted everyone playing hunter if that did that instead.
Its great that you feel that its interesting and I’m not asking for it to be removed, just that we get a ranged Survival variant back.
Just because you think it doesn’t add to the conversation it doesn’t make it so. You’re just saying this because I don’t fully endorse your suggestion.
I thought saying “No” to your question was simple enough to understand. I don’t want a weapon switching hunter but instead a ranged Survival Hunter, like those that used to be in the game.
Because I don’t think I can quote it all in one go without editing it so it was easier that way. If there’s another I don’t know of it
Well I fail to see what it adds. No shows a one dimensional response of, yeah I don’t like this. I also asked you politely to elaborate. Which realistically , you haven’t ?
Furthermore , " No. " using a period just seems you’re in a mood , or incredibly off / childish or salty. I’m sure you can understand where I’m coming from.
I won’t reply after this as it’s just going to end in a downward spiral. You evidently are a fan of the old school ranged survival which is fine , so why you came here to basically say “No.”… erm ok.
If you shared your thoughts as to why , what you liked about Ranged survival and went deeper in your responses maybe it would have been a better conversation but you do you. You also failed to highlight why you don’t like MM and what it lacks compared to a ranged SV.
Not in a mood. Maybe you should take a look at yourself because I made no personal judgement towards yourself.
I don’t need to write a whole essay to express what “no” could easily achieve, if that disappoints you then that is a you problem.
I’d be fine with that, Arcane Shot could replace Raptor Strike and we could use Multishot in place of Carve. You’d also have to adjust some talents to compensate for it but it wouldn’t be a massive overhaul. I’d definitely prefer this as a survival spec.
Well it’s my thread. You haven’t really contributed anything except for the last piece of your comment but whatever.
If you have an issue with me just call it?
The difference in reply to myself and Pjetrus is noticeable
On the beta sv hunters were using a bow with arcane and steady shot but they changed the focus cost and damage to make those spells useless for a sv hunter. You can of course still equip a bow but its not the intended way of playing it. Personally i would like to see them be able to equip a bow and melee weapon. Think it would make the spec unique and they could add some of the old sv back into it.
Imo, survival should be a ranged spec designed around CC and trapping, with a mastery that does % more damage vs recently trapped targets (add some offensive traps in too), with some elements of leaping in for melee, then quickly withdrawing.
Could have a rotation that is alternating between trapping and blasting target from range, then having resource building to do the range burst windows again while meleeing, I dunno, something like that
BM should be made into a melee spec with a mastery that does more damage when you and pets are closer together. Current BM design is toxic and just stupid tbh. In terms of class fantasy, fighting with your beasts as a pack > shooting a swarm of animals attacking a target while trying not to hit the pets.
If you ask me a better question is why can they use a ranged kill shot with a polearm. I’m not a fan of it or the SV serpent sting that requires no bow. I like the idea of a hybrid spec but that needs to be worked on, right now it’s a melee spec with a ranged niche.
You have some warped sense of self. You contradicted yourself earlier in the thread , got called out and resorted to the childish blunt reply of “No.”
It isn’t an opinion but ok think as you will
Rent free? How old are we 1… nevermind
Yeah different abilities but not switching weapons. Just an animation of a 2 hander , and an animation of a bow while you actually don’t have a weapon equipped
You’re trolling yourself but it’s provided some humour I’ll give you that
This would be alright to be fair. Also what you said about BM becoming melee would sort PvP out somewhat. It’s incredibly annoying having a pet just mongo you down while the hunter spams 2 abilities and spacebar
Those two abilities have a small crossbow animation to it which substitutes for the bows you can’t equip for the ability. Same with an Outlaw Togues pistol shot.
That’s entirely the problem with BM in PvP. There is very little interaction to get optimal DPS compared to other classes, and a lot of the damage is unavoidable. BM hunters defend it by saying they can’t burst, but honestly, if you play with something like a feral the pressure is unhealable and it doesn’t matter anyway…
Like I said, best design for surv is a resource build phase, then a damage dump phase, (I imagine range being the resource builder would be better because it makes it harder to get resource drained, then the melee burst has more counterplay in it. Throw in some mid range abilities or whatnot to spice it in talents, and you’d have a good hybrid there
