Survival Hunter?

lol…
/10char

or make it relevant so that more of the population can actually play it and have fun playing it ? it’s here, it doesn’t needs much, it just needs one person o actually have fun playing it, and happening that this person is a dev.

I’d rather they delete the whole class tbh if this is the takes we’re going with today.

Its 15% behind MM right now in singletarget sims so it definetly deserves its rep for being a bad spec in raids.

i agree, revert to old surv
else just let it die

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it’s not like you read it all through, right ?

anyway.

:)) u got me

but check this

its like 6k hunters that play surv out of 204k total in their records
6k players can just reroll to some melee spec and let the rest 204k have the ranged surv back or another spec

I say, delete everyone asking for a spec being removed or reverted. Such an ignorant behaviour.

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Sure, while we are at it let’s delete BM, they can just reroll to another pet class like Demo Lock, oh and delete MM, just reroll to Mage or something.

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BM is the most successfull specc
why would they delete it?

Why is that a justification to delete a spec?
If it’s the least played spec the solution is to improve it so more people pick it, not deleting it.

If we go by that logic plenty of things in the game should be deleted because only a few players enjoy it.

well, how could I put it. the version they released during legion, as of 7.0 (legion pre-patch) was really clunky and felt bad playing it. this held away approximately anyone to have fun with it.

though, in 7.1 (legion first patch introducing nighthold) they fixed a few things, introducing Haste scaling (which became the most important secondary from this point). after 7.1, survival hunter was really a fun spec to play, felt really rewarding and offered one of the strongest AoE burst at that time (with butchery and the legendary torso), not only strong within hunter, but globally. while also offering a very strong single-target DPS (it’s weaknesses being cleave situation, and actually surviving being melee).

though, the spec was judged by blizzard as “too hard to play”, and they thought that this was preventing new players to catter to the spec. also, they tought that it being “too much melee” wasn’t good, and they brought some “ranged” elements through throwing poisoned rocks, mortal rocks, arcane rocks, hitting 40Yards throwing seagulls. in short, they ruined the experience for the players that loved how Legion survival hunter played, without even adressing those who enjoyed Mist of Pandario take on survival hunter (explosive shots weaving, black arrow).

as for myself, I’d gladly see them revert those hybrid heresy, and truly embracing the melee. giving survival a true ramping up gameplay (mongoose fury), and giving in a way or another some passive damage mitigation that would allow us standing upfront.

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I’m talking about it’s rep in general.

That’s right now, sims and raiding, it doesn’t make the spec bad. On BFA release it’s rep wasn’t much better despite being a top dps spec. Hell iirc it was top 3 if not #1 ST during Uldir.

All these people saying delete the spec are idiots.

SV isn’t top dps, that’s why people don’t use it.
If SV was the highest damage everyone would use it. That’s just how the game works. You’re not going to see the harder lower damage spec in progression, when they need all the advantages they can get.

People see on youtube. “PRO MLG NO SCOPE BM CLEAVE!” and they just go with that. Biggest numbers least amount of investment.

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u happy now Survival Hunters

Survival and MM is S tier
BM B tier

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Yes, thank you for asking.

No king rules forever my son.

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The pendulum swings.

This logic is just patently false. If SV was overtuned would it draw some more players? Yeah. Is SV being weak the reason it’s a mostly-ignored spec? Absolutely not.

Why? BM is performing worse-than-or-similar-to SV in Castle Nathria (dependant on what parameters you analyse) but it still has THIRTY times more representation.

SV is a wasted opportunity right now, it’s routinely the least represented spec every single patch because people just find it awful to play. People don’t play a Hunter if they want to be budget-Warrior; Hunter instead draws people who want to use a bow. That’s all there is to it.

A rework would help, because right now Survival plays like they asked 4 different people to come up with a simple mechanic, then shoehorned them into one class with very little synergy between them and often, instead, counterplay. But it’d be far easier to simply make it ranged again, that’d help bring players back to it in a heartbeat.

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Survival was the best dps in uldir and they saw 0 play.

They were also a top 1-3 dps in crucible but that was a small tier and there were only a few sv logs.

Dps is not the problem. The fact that ranged are far easier to play and the utility from all hunter specs is exactly the same is the reason sv sees low representation

As well as countless wow youtubers talking smack about the spec how bad it was/clunky/low dps etc, when literraly jone of them played the spec correctly or knew wtf they were talking about

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