Swap 1h+shield in combat as Arms

we have one of the biggest problem in the game right now,

when in combat, we need 2 GCD!!! to equip Shield first, then 1h (swapping from 2h)

this is a bug 100% , it’s impoissible to think this is intended.

Out of combat there is no problem, only 1 GCD

PS: i think no one noticed this because they added 2 spells (shield block , shield slam) totally useless atm in the synergy of the class.

they fantasy of swapping was good when we had Stances ( i hope they will return) now is 0…and i mean…0… sense of swapping 1h+shield.

Beacuse is an useless defencive toolkit, and it is more and more valuable to keep ataccking and pressure the enemy, then swap to this shield cr4p spells :slight_smile:

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Putting shield block and shield slam into the dps specs is useless imo, clunky and bad mechanics

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Glad someone talks about it tho, I was starting to believe I was the only one with this problem.

I hoped they brought it back to be used like it was in Wotlk, but right now it’s just another useless spell.

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It’s funny that I called it clunky, cluttered and outdated before SL and people kept defending it saying things like “I cannot wait to be able to swap to 1h + shield in combat to do some emergency tanking” or “being able to swap to 1h + shield will be amazing if you decide to be the flag carrier in Warsong Gulch.”

No. Having Shield Slam and Shield Block in combination with 1h + Shield remains not only useless as Arms and Fury, it’s also absolutely outdated, clunky, is almost unplayable without a macro and overall just bad class design.

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Hard to argue with this, it’s hopelessly and aimlessly designed such that no thought has seemingly been put into it at all. These abilities should remain off your bars.

They should:

  • Make Revenge a base Warrior skill.
  • Make successful blocks have a chance to trigger a free Revenge.
  • Remove the hard PPM limit on said Revenge procs.

This way if you are being trained in PvP switching to shield isn’t a total waste of time and in some scenarios might even be optimal. You know, like it used to be.

If they really wanted that “Classic” thing, then they should have at least make it modern, ie allowing shield to become its own slot. This way, it would make those spell somewhat usable without forcing switch weapons macro.

Or simply : Prune them again and give DPS warriors somewhat usefull spells instead.

That’s not right.

#showtooltip shield block
/equipslot 16 YourOnehand
/equipslot 17 YourShield
/cast shield block
(spam this macro)

1 GCD for the swap (but shield block isn’t on GCD so you can use it instant) AND you can do it while already on GCD.

Nearly GCD free 33% physical damage reduction with 2 stacks along with Intervene and Defensive Stance is nuts for pvp. You can even block aimed shot :smiley:

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If only we still had stances so i could have all the “prot” stuff on a different bar like back in the days :slight_smile:

True

But there are mods for macros like this:
/cast [equipped:shields] shield slam; mortal strike

Man, does it really work that way? What a legend. Thanks for this!

Haha amen fellow warrior, just my thoughts also!

If they gonna make us use shield for defensives, make it better ingame mechanic then!

Make shield a third “weapon slot” just like what hunters had in before, just change the ranged weapon with shield!

And one button swap to shield, but im against all this shield usage in PvP and PvE for DAMAGE WARRIORS, but even with the “fking” shield we are less powerful than a cute little feral cat, doing dobbel furious bite out of stealth for 12k noncrit and rogues with leather armors.

No make warriors ware PLATE not PAPER. Plate armor have nothing to say in WoW anymore, its sad.

We wear heavy armors, we should be hard to kill… specially for these rogues and druids, i loved that about warriors in vanilla, overpower procs against rogues and cats, it was such a great feeling, but we have nothing to counter them with now, and we have no defensive abilities compared to them…

Warriors are in such a sad state right now. Dont get me wrong, i love my warrior, been playing him since vanilla… but it just dosnt feel right, in BFA we did around 50-60% total dmg in mythic plus with only deep wounds ability… in raids we did most dmg if we went execute build and test of might. And now in shadowlands, we are “forced” (that is my opinion) to go Ventyr covenant for the condem ability, i have seen logs and condem is the new top dmg ability, it deals alone 40% of our total dmg (in many logs) its sad, we have gone to such a bad class design, that blizzard have to put in all these borrowed powers for us to even compete against other classes to be one of the lowest dps’ers right now, with both spesc and 10-15 years old game mechanics to “fix” warriors defensive abilities for the people with nostalgia for warriors.

We shouldnt accept this, we wear plate and still we cant take more melee beating than, cloth, leather and mail users. We are a weak class without proper healers…

That was my little rant, probaly alot of typos and stuff here. But wanted to get it out, i hope more people have the same view as me…

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Yesterday I got jumped by a rogue. I had shield block, ignore pain, victory rush and bloodthirst. Once they burnt through all their CD’s and realized they weren’t going to get anywhere they just ran away!

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