At first, the problem was ganking. The data shows that when you let horde farm honor with dignity, they treat alliance with dignity as well.
Then, the problem was horde winrate. The data shows that the winrate is equal for both factions, which also proves that racials don’t matter at battleground-level play.
Going by the data (and we have no reason to believe the data is flawed), this change is a net gain for both factions.
It’s unfortunate to see bad faith actors try to move the goal posts and say that the problems previously focused on are now insignificant. They want a reaction, not a discussion. To blame rather than find solutions. They shouldn’t be engaged or entertained in any way.
It’s important to keep in mind that most players agree that this is a good change and want it implemented permanently as soon as possible.
Once again my customer loyalty is at an all-time high. Mr. Kaivax, bring back that test!
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what the data doesnt show is my unsub if no free transfer to horde. i refuse to pay money to play cannonfodder for horde premades. i cant even remember when we last won AV. must be years by now
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Ye Blizzard give them what they want xd They already have so many bots farming stuff and horde economy is so trash after 1month tbc I wanna see how much of you guys will be playin after year or half XD
So what’s the point of having factions again? If you make 1 faction BG’s might as well make it a one faction game. And make any PVP isolated to BG’s as few individual squabbles.
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Apparently Alliance concern on faction imbalance is falling on deaf ears. So much for not making changes that are ‘too dramatic’.
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Pvp deaths in open world close to 50:50. Alliance has less players. Alliance ganks the opposite faction more. LOL. This is sweet. Thanks Blizz for making this official. It feels almost like Xmas.
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Yeah? The horde faced 1h queues for a month, of course the minute you gave them 1m queues the ganking slowed down. It’s unlikely to stay like this if this feature is implemented considering allies are outnumbered on most pvp servers. Who on earth designed this test?
But anyway, this is what we get for allowing Blizz to touch TBC. What hopes should we have that retail will ever become good again when Blizz seems to be able to ruin any game no matter how good it was originally.
Hope the horde cry babies are happy. Thanks for making TBC more like retail for the rest of us
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Гавноеды. Не зря отменил подписку.
shiт-eaters. I canceled my subscription.
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I am pretty sure ally winrate is way more than 50 atm dont nerf pls
why did u still disable same fraction battlegrounds? i mean as a horde we are already so far behind on gearing, it is pointless to play arena.
season 1 is lost for most player who doesn’t have 200 resilence or more. i mean, most people are not even 1500 rated because the arenateam starts at 0 rating.
REMEMBER: YOU DONT GET MUCH ARENA POINTS FOR LOW RATING
i played many games this season but my friend and i getting destroyed from rogue/x teams because of low resilence in 2v2. for every week we can’t get more resilence, we will stay low. meanwhile geared people on ally (because low queue) or “full time” horde players gonna skyrocket in rating.
for casuals there is now point to play as long as you want to compete. as a PvP beginner or someone who doesn’t farmed honor/marks in prepatch it is already lost. how are you supposed to farm so much gear while waiting 30-90 min for a BG?!
please, please enable it as soon as possible to give arena season 1 a chance for all horde players.
and it would not be better in season 2.
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Oh look we can see only positiv outcome when we focus on the shortterm data. But lets ignore our longterm retail data to this topic and ignore all the negativ aspects that come with it.
GJ Blizzard for showing that u dont look at your own data to compare what happend to the faction balance in retail! GG
Who needs alliance in the game anyway? 2 factions? pffff.
Its the same problem why retail is this bad, symptoms get badly fixed but not the reason causing the problem. And when **** hits the fan they make a suprised pikachu face.
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- Fix long BG queues
- Limit premades to 5 players on all factions
Horde is far behind on gearing so all these alliance players whining make 0 sense and all arguments have been clearly denied.
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Dear Blizzard,
Thanks a lot for the feedback, but I cant believe that you have not solved the problem already. You are telling us the following:
- That the game, your game, was unplayable by the horde with 1 hour or more queues and that was not the original design
- That the same faction PvP not only solved that, but reduced the ganking on the open world for alliance and did not affect the balance of win rates on “aliance” vs. horde
- That you are taking more time to do test, think, implement alternatives…Excuse me, what?
Sorry but sometimes you forget that this is a PAID service, so may be what you could do while you implement the solution for a problem that you officially confesed that your game has, is RETURN ALL SUBSCRIPTION FEES until its solved.
Im sure that this way we all be more patient and I’m sure you will be more dilligent.
Thanks a lot, and GOOD DAY
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Can you show resilience rates for Alliance vs Horde teams? Win rates close to 50/50 only because Alliance already had the chance to farm the gear. How is this fair? I think we should strike back now. Take their gear!
Please re-enable (or run more “tests”) asap, s1 is soon gone and most hordes haven’t still been able to get more than a few pieces of honor gear unless they farmed 75k in prepatch.
Also address the premade issue. Regardless of 45min or 1min ques it is 75% premades always against pugs. 1 min makes it better but it is still an issue. If you don’t want to disencourage people away from premades by making premades only meet other premades, you can grant more honor for those fights which are prem vs prem or something like that. Its not that hard, just think about it for a second. PuG vs prem should be a corner case, not a 75% chance to happen.
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Dear Blizzard,
Thanks a lot for the feedback, but I cant believe that you have not solved the problem already. You are telling us the following:
- That the game, your game, was unplayable by the horde with 1 hour or more queues and that was not the original design
- That the same faction PvP not only solved that, but reduced the ganking on the open world for alliance and did not affect the balance of win rates on “aliance” vs. horde
- That you are taking more time to do test, think, implement alternatives…Excuse me, what?
Sorry but sometimes you forget that this is a PAID service, so may be what you could do while you implement the solution for a problem that you officially confesed that your game has, is RETURN ALL SUBSCRIPTION FEES until its solved.
Im sure that this way we all be more patient and I’m sure you will be more dilligent.
Thanks a lot, and GOOD DAY
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Do you ever listen to yourself and see how funny you sound?
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Yes I am a pretty funny guy, I often laugh at my own jokes.
With the fact that they just showed that with HvH the win rates are the same and killing of Alliance in world is also 50/50 it’s been proven that you were wrong all along and this change should have been implemented much earlier for the game to be more fair. Thanks to that Alliance had and still has an extreme advantage in both BGs and Arena.
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Oooh okay, I understand now. It is hard to keep up with who is trolling and who is being serious sometimes on these forums. Have a nice day
Some people believing everything a blue says eventho there is no data provided to us but a blue text.
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