Testing of Same-Faction Battlegrounds Will Continue

Zivai-kazzak · July 10, 2021, 1:57pm

well dude…its kinda simple…where most pvp servers are horde favored and some are just dead on alliance,it simply cant be 50/50 in wpvp

Ingwin-noggenfogger · July 10, 2021, 1:58pm

For the same reason they won’t post subscriber numbers. Because they look bad. Retail is not popular and now Nu-retail-tbc won’t be popular. Classic is over. Watch what happens if this change stays.

Hurikatwo-doomhammer · July 10, 2021, 1:58pm

Dont bother trying to reason with hordes they got no damh clue whats happening outside Ogrimmar and as long as it helps them they are ok with not having a healthy game

Ingwin-noggenfogger · July 10, 2021, 2:00pm

You are right. Irl > forum posting > Nu-retail-like-tbc.

Sneeds-venoxis · July 10, 2021, 2:00pm

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Jagarde-outland · July 10, 2021, 2:08pm

Kaivax:

First and foremost, thank you to everyone who played Battlegrounds last week and sent us thoughtful and informed feedback on same-faction play. While we don’t plan to re-enable it again over the next few days, we’re analyzing the data we collected, and we’re planning to test more soon.

Here are some of our initial findings that will inform our next test:

Before this test, most players who joined the queue were unable to get a match, sometimes after waiting for over an hour and/or dropping out of the queue altogether. This was particularly unfortunate at some times of day or in some regions. During the test, BG queue times became short and reliable for both factions.

Prior to the first test, we wondered if the queue was having an effect on PvP in the outdoor world, and we now have data showing that when same-faction Battlegrounds were available, PvP deaths in the outdoor world were very close to 50/50 between the factions.

Similarly, win-rates for the two factions when facing the other faction in Battlegrounds were close to 50/50.

We’ll let you know as soon as we’ve completed our analysis, have decided on any further tweaks to the system, and are ready to test it again.

And again, thank you very much for your feedback as we explore potential solutions.

Great!

Now can we get Dungeon Finder ala Retail? I don’t have time to wait 30+ mins to create a group, then another 10+ minutes for everyone to be ready for summ or “get inside” the Dungeon.

I don’t want to watch the whole LFG chat for over 30 mins to see if there is a Dungeon I want to do or until I get an invite.

Lolololololo Blizzard, DO SOMETHING!!! Wasting a good 40+ minutes to create a Dungeon group or join one?? I WANT TO PLAY THE GAME!!

PS: Also, where the eF is TBC LFG tool which was there Day 1 back in the days??

Snéeds-venoxis · July 10, 2021, 2:11pm

alliance right now be like
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Thae-dreadmist · July 10, 2021, 2:15pm

Those numbers are made up. And they also do not correlate at all to HvH queues.

Найиша-flamegor · July 10, 2021, 2:28pm

Wrong. It did nothing for the Russian alliance.

Russian alliance has a lot less pvpers than the whole European region. For us, the game doesn’t start unless the system can find almost a full team of Russian alliance. Which can result in long queues, us not starting with the full team or the game just doesn’t start / not available. This is a problem in late evening and at night.

Deepfreezegu-shazzrah · July 10, 2021, 2:40pm

play Chromie realm? nooo we should cry on forums

Tryhardd-silvermoon · July 10, 2021, 2:43pm

isn’t this just pure sharp 200 iq logic, you truly are a smart one

Pelsia-earthshaker · July 10, 2021, 2:45pm

looks at horde vs alliance server % balance

if you think the slight % difference in population numbers warrants an over 1 hour que for horde you need to change your narrative

Xoloh-razorfen · July 10, 2021, 3:29pm

I can only speak from what I’m personally observing, but being considerate and careful is something you don’t have time for.
BGs are already a cesspool of toxic a-holes and people without any ambition, because all the “normal” players seem to have moved on. Most of the time, there is absolutely no competitive spirit, because people are extremely fed up and they will immediately turn on each other and give up once their team’s behind. The general perception in the community seems to be that BGs are a hassle and a chore, because you either get stomped or you stomp.
IMO, this mentality is a direct result from the way queue times played out since release: long q times on horde means, anything but a win is a huge waste of time, so winning becomes the standard expectation and if your team doesn’t deliver, you get frustrated. Conversely, having to face premades without a chance of winning means giving up immediately once behind becomes the new norm. I frankly don’t know if it’s not already too late to make BG PvP fun again, because players nowadays care way too much about outcome and efficiency to just have fun in a random BG.

Ingwin-noggenfogger · July 10, 2021, 3:44pm

I clearly stated that the problem is NOT faction ratios, but servers that were healthy two weeks ago dying overnight as a direct result of turning classic into retail. Why should alliance servers be negatively affected to fix a horde problem?

Zalanji-mirage-raceway · July 10, 2021, 3:47pm

The whole point of not having teleport is so groups can’t easily replace players once they’re inside, preventing the kind of toxic behavior we saw from WotLK onwards where ppl would votekick or leave for the most futile reasons.

TBC LFG tool, yes. WotLK-style RDF with teleport to dungeon, hell no.

EDIT: Also I’m fully aware nothing of this belongs to this thread.

Мейджфистинг-flamegor · July 10, 2021, 4:46pm

-Retail, Ironforge

IT’S NOT OFFICIAL, 0 FACTS. MOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Snéeds-venoxis · July 10, 2021, 5:03pm

Thanks for participating

Conoz-razorgore · July 10, 2021, 5:15pm

ratio is like 45/55 thats ok

Justicesoul-pyrewood-village · July 10, 2021, 5:52pm

So Alliance on PvP realms are paying their sub to have the Horde play more comfortably.

Glad to hear that you have first and second class players.

Abbygale-stonespine · July 10, 2021, 7:51pm

Yes, because your faction is a bunch of cowards that fight only when heavily outnumbering the enemy and cower in fear in the face of equal odds.