Thank you Blizzard

[Topgangsta-quelthalas]

Dragonflight Season 2 DPS Rankings Week 2 - Mythic Aberrus, the Shadowed...

Fire is in the absolute very bottom. It doesn’t matter how many buffs they push. The playstyle is horrendous, the damage is horrendous, the amount of effort to master the spec for no gain is horrendous.
Unless we see a full rework of the spec this is going to be the case until the end of the expansion.

[Minnji-eonar]

Top mages are playing and gearing Arcane for mythic prog, frost has the same stats. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with fire’s dmg, it was like this at the start of 10.0 and as soon as top players got fire gear for reclears it was good.

[Evokus-ravencrest]

As above said, fires damage isnt horrendeous,

At the bleeding edge, players will swap speccs for a 3% dps increase. This will skew log results due to top tier players representing one specc leaving the otjer to be represented by far less skilled players.

Wowlogs is admitted across the board to massively exaggerate dps differences because of that.

Mage is a 3 specc class, im afraid, in such a class ur never gonna feel good die hard maining a singular specc as the games continously built to make u swap speccs.

That philosphy kinda went out the window with the legion era, where they attempted to drive specc identity. As players got mad at it and demanded reversion.

Look on the bright side.

Your not DH or Monk u have 2 speccs widely outperforming them in all pve content and they aint wven got a back up choice without rerolling

[Billyblue-magtheridon]

@Topgangsta-quelthalas

Unless we see a full rework of the spec this is going to be the case until the end of the expansion.

Continuing the discussion from Dragonflight Fractures in Time PTR Development Notes:

@Linxy

MAGE

• Take a look at the developer’s notes in the Mage feedback thread .
• All ability damage increased by 15%.
• Invisibility is now learned by all specializations at level 16.
• Incanter’s Flow now replaces Invisibility in the Class tree.
• Shifting Power has been moved to Incanter’s Flow previous location.
• Rune of Power and Meteor have been removed.
• New Talent: Ice Cold – Ice Block now reduces all damage taken by 70% for 6 seconds but no longer grants Immunity, prevents movement, attacks, or casting spells. Does not incur the Global Cooldown.
  • Ice Cold is located on Shifting Power’s previous location on the talent tree.
• New Talent: Mass Barrier – Cast Prismatic/Blazing/Ice Barrier (based on your specialization) on yourself and 3 nearby allies. 2 minute cooldown.
  • Mass Barrier is located as a choice node with Mass Invisibility.
• New Talent: Mass Invisibility – You and your allies within 40 yards instantly become invisible for 10 seconds. Taking any action will cancel the effect. Does not affect allies in combat.
  • Mass Invisibility located as a choice node with Mass Barrier.
  • Developers’ note: The PvP Talent for Arcane will be updated in a future PTR build.
• Accumulate Shielding is now a 1 rank talent (was 2). Barrier cooldowns now recharge 30% faster while the shield persists at rank 1.
• Accumulate Shielding now connects to the Time Anomaly/Temporal Warp choice node.
• Time Manipulation is now a 1 rank talent (was 2). Now reduces the cooldown of your loss of control abilities by 2 seconds at rank 1.
• Time Manipulation now connects to the Time Anomaly/Temporal Warp choice node.
• Displacement now heals the caster for 20% of their maximum health when returning to the Blink location.
• Winter’s Protection now reduces the cooldown of Ice Block by 30 seconds per rank.
• Displacement is now located after Flow of Time.
• Greater Invisibility now replaces Invisibility when talented and is located below Temporal Velocity.
• Mass Barrier is now cast on yourself and 4 allies (was 3).
• Fixed an issue with Prismatic Barrier applying to more than 4 allies.
• Mass Invisibility duration increased to 12 seconds (was 10 seconds).
• Diverted Energy’s barriers now heal you for 20/40% of the damage absorbed (was 10/20%).
• Flow of Time reduces the cooldown of Blink by 2/4 seconds (was 1/2 seconds).
• Temporal Velocity’s movement speed duration increased to 3 seconds and 5 seconds after using Blink and Alter Time, respectively.
• Temporal Velocity’s movement speed after Blinking increased by 10/20% (was 5/10%).
• Incantation of Swiftness now increases movement speed by 40/80% for both Invisibility and Greater Invisibility.
• Ice Cold can no longer be dispelled.
• Fixed an issue that caused Displacement to replace Invisibility and Greater Invisibility.
• Fire
  • Flamestrike has been removed from the talent tree and is now learned at level 12.
  • Flamestrike cast time reduced to 3.5 seconds (was 4 seconds).
  • Cauterize has been removed from the talent tree and now learned at level 19.
  • Pyroblast cast time reduced to 4 seconds (was 4.5 seconds).
  • Mastery: Ignite now causes Fire Blast to spreads Ignite to 3 targets (was 4).
  • From the Ashes now increases Mastery by 2% for each Phoenix Flames charge on cooldown (was previously for each charge off cooldown).
  • Pyrotechnics is now located on row 2.
  • Improved Flamestrike has been renamed to Surging Blaze.
  • Surging Blaze now increases the cast speed of Pyroblast and Flamestrike by 0.5 seconds and their damage by 10%.
  • Surging Blaze is now located on row 3 after Pyrotechnics.
  • New Talent: Fuel the Fire – Flamestrike has a chance equal to 100% of your critical strike chance to contribute to Hot Streak.
  • Fuel the Fire is located on row 4 after Surging Blaze.
  • Pyroclasm has been removed.
  • Sun King’s Blessing now also increases the damage of your next Pyroblast or Flamestrike by 300% in addition to granting Combustion.
  • The temporary buff granted by Sun King’s Blessing that increased damage and Combustion has been renamed to Fury of the Sun King and it now has new icon to better differentiate between the stacking buff and actual buff.
  • Fury of the Sun King duration increased to 30 seconds (was 15 seconds).
  • New Talent: Unleashed Inferno – While Combustion is active your Fireball, Pyroblast, Fire Blast, Scorch, and Phoenix Flames deal 40% increased damage and reduce the cooldown of Combustion by 2.5 seconds.
  • Unleashed Inferno is located as a choice node with Sun King’s Blessing.
  • New Talent: Intensifying Flames – While Ignite is on 3 or fewer enemies it deals 15% increased damage.
    • Developers’ note: This is not yet implemented but will be selectable in the talent tree.
  • Intensifying Flames is located on row 5, replacing Cauterize.
  • Fervent Flickering is now located on row 4 after Phoenix Flames.
  • Improved Scorch max ranks reduced to 1 (was 2) and damage dealt to targets with the debuff increased to 4% per stack at rank 1 (was 2%).
  • Call of the Sun King now also increases Phoenix Flames damage by 15%.
  • Firefall’s number of Fireballs and Pyroblasts required to call down a Meteor reduced to 15 (was 30).
  • Firefall no longer grants double benefit from hitting players.
  • Firefall is no longer a choice node with Pyromaniac.
  • Pyromaniac is no longer a choice node with Firefall. It’s now located after the Feel the Burn and Improved Combustion choice node.
  • Conflagration damage over time increased by 12% The chance for enemies to flare up increased to 15% (was 10%).
  • Master of Flame now spreads Ignite to 2 additional enemies during Combustion (was 4).
  • Master of Flame is now located below the Firemind and Improved Combustion choice node.
  • Fevered Incantation max ranks reduced to 1 (was 2) and critical strike damage increased to 2% per stack (was 1% at rank 1).
  • Fevered Incantation is now located on row 8, replacing Pyroclasm in the tree.
  • Wildfire no longer increases Ignite damage. Instead, it now grants 4/8% critical strike damage and an additional 3/6% critical strike damage when you activate Combustion.
  • Hyperthermia’s duration increased to 6 seconds (was 5 seconds).
  • Hyperthermia is now located on the final row.
  • Fiery Rush is now located on row 9 directly after Kindling.
  • Living Bomb’s cooldown increased to 30 seconds (was 12 seconds), damage over time increased by 30%, and explosion damage increased by 20%.
  • Kindling now causes Scorch critical strikes to reduce Combustion’s cooldown in addition to its current effect.
  • New Talent: Convection – Each time Living Bomb explodes it has a 35% chance to reduce its cooldown by 2 seconds.
  • Convection is located on row 7, directly after Living Bomb and Incendiary Eruptions.
  • Meteor is now located on row 9 of the Fire tree.
  • Meteor no longer splits damage evenly between targets hit by default and its damage is reduced when hitting beyond 8 targets.
  • Meteor’s damage increased by 10%.
  • New Talent: Deep Impact – Meteor’s damage is increased by 20% but is now split evenly between all enemies hit. Additionally, its cooldown is reduced by 15 seconds.

Some quite big changes coming to Fire in the first phase of the Mage rework (focused on Arcane).

I think at this point they’re concentrating on making the spec more accessible to play. Hopefully a full rework is not too far away.

[Jerdo-malygos]

Fire is in a very bad state. Although it will be improving in 10.1.5, they should buff something now via hotfix. It’s still okay in M+, although I am far behind other classes, but it’s absolutely terrible in the Raid/ST.

Yesterday I respecced to Arcane and went Heroic Zaqali Assault. Not even having the rotation in my head fully again, it’s more an AOE encounter and not even having my secondary stats tuned, I logged immediately ~10k dps higher than my last fire kill of Zaqali and ranked somewhere in the middle.

I had T30 2pc and T29 2pc with ~428 ilvl and I was doing less damage in ST encounters than Warlocks, Rogues or similar 10 ilvl below me.

[Brô-ravencrest]

in the next patch fire is gonna be busted