Thank you for mage rework

An honest “Thank you, devs, for listening to the players”.
I have been maining mage since BC, the class never felt better than after this rework.
Just the RoP change alone makes Arcane so much fun. Every Raid Encounter I have played so far was so much more easier just thanks to that change.
Arcane AoE also feels amazing.
You also achieved that Arcane is still a bursty spec, while flattening the curve a bit due to RoP removal, it still feels similar. I just don’t need to stand around anymore.

Really, really good job on the mage rework. It’s awesome so far.

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Agreed.

The mage rework was actually perfect, didnt dumb anything down, didnt prune us, didnt remove anything to be missed.

But now just flows so much better and far more enjoyable

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cries in arcane

Indeed, i enjoy the rework aswell.
I’m frost and the AoE is really good and steady, and still on bosses descent ST even in AoE specc.
Still need to get the new rota in my muscle memory but even now its way better.

Everyone agree arcane is not bad in PVE , sad it cant be said about arcane in PVP which is absolutely rubbish atm, check pvp ladders, no matter what region, what configuration ( 2v2,3v3,solo ) - arcane is on bottom of each, no one play it…

I dont think many agree with that.

Its a over complex specc which puts out Ok damage, most complements i see for mage revolve around frost and fire.

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Arcane is the ‘Feral’ of mage specs

Loving Frost atm and I’m liking Fire but I don’t really have the gear for it right now.

Arcane on the other hand just doesn’t seem worth it anymore. Before you could line everything up and pull some stupid damage if you did it right, now it’s the same level of complexity but there’s no reward for it.

Also those nerfs, the Frost and Fire ones I get and I’m surprised they aren’t bigger, but the Arcane ones seem a bit odd as I’ve not come across any Mage even playing Arcane and when I’ve tried it myself the AoE was rather lackluster in comparison to both the other specs and everyone else in my group.

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It seems like mostly people who play frost and fire who say arcane is ‘bad’, ‘weak’ or ‘not fun’. All the arcane players I’ve talked to are having a blast, and were more than happy to give up being OP in ST for a significant gain in AOE performance and fun factor.

i know, i hit rank1 at 1620 for a couple of months inr rated bg playing no voices groups, nobody else would invite me

I am not likeing the rework to frost and fire. Seems like button bloat to frost long casts, more cooldowns slows the spec down, numbers are ok but for me less fun to play think I will bench it for now

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I am not likeing the rework to frost and fire. Seems like button bloat to frost long casts, more cooldowns slows the spec down, numbers are ok but for me less fun to play think I will bench it for now

I’m starting to feel like this, now that I have played with it a bit. It’s performing better for me, but I can’t say that I’m having more fun. I’m not a fan of the bloat.

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Thats because arcane is fun, if you are someone who enjoys high compexity, however for the average player arcanes complexity gates the fun.

It isnt fun when u know ur bad, im certain arcane has a audience, but for a majority they simply wont touch it.

And spamming arcane explosion > barrage with the occasional orb thrown in is highly complex now? The other 2 specs must have a 2 button AOE rotation, yes?

Arcane complexity is fun on raids. But for m+ with pugs? I dont think so. If you play with a fixed team and the cc is assigned properly, you don’t have to interrupt your rotation etc. then it could work there too. But even then for m+ this so called complexity is not good. There are many variables on m+, many random things
which you cannot calculate in your rotatioj like on raids where you know exactly when what will happen.

Its most defintly more then that unless this rework rly did simplify it that hard which i was under the impression it wasnt.

Was a 28 step sequel by any guide.

There are still CDs, but without the need to plan them around being able to stand in one place for RoP, it’s been simplified dramatically.

Same here pal!

I rly wish they had brought a perma-pet spec and something +new.
Not the old garbage like glacial. I cannot stand that at all :frowning:

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