The back and forth of the LFD tool

How are choosing who to talk to in a busy bar vs. being forced to play with 4 other players even remotely comparable?

THAT’S WHAT I WROTE. Peaking in ICC when RDF was introduced. “What of it”? - It never recuperated, for the first time of the launch of an expansion in WoW’s history

Not once, ever, have I said that dps should be entitled to join any group of their choosing.
Just as little as a tank are not ever entitled to any loot of their choosing.
Every part of the group, tank-healer-dps, is equally “entitled”. Every person is just as big of a part of the group as the other.

Quite a long time after yes. A good bit into Cataclysm actually. Even if RDF would have had some impact on that, there’s plenty of other reasons too. So no one can’t really point that sub loss at RDF as the source.

Actually no. That expansion end is the only time there wasn’t any sub losses. They didn’t start to drop until several months into Cata.

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How is it not?

Unless you think doing your rotation and tanking and healing is implicitly a social action?

What’d you expect was going to happen? That subscriber count was going to continue going up in an old game? That’s something that’s literally never happened.

Like, what is your point here?

I spent a lot of effort, time, energy, and gold to get proper geat and def cap to run heroics with my warrior as a tank. If you think it’s entitled to make an effort to fill a role in very short supply, but very high demand you don’t have to join the group. The only thing I will give you here is that any reserve should be agreed upon before even entering the dungeon.

I’m not begging anyone to take me into their groups without them being OK with it. They take me because they want me to join. This is the opposite of being entitled. I still don’t expect anyone to take me in. I make myself more attractive in that the hope that they will. Or I hope that I’m attractive enough. I’m not getting anything for free, or say I have a right to, unless previously agreed upon.

A DPS complaining about no tanks are free to make and play a tank themselves.

If you wanted to quickly get into a group with a good tank, but feel entitled to getting to roll on the nether that’s your loss. I was in a position to use being tank as leverage, and it’s up to you if you want to take it or not. If you joined the group anyway but still don’t get to it’s not my fault. If you decide to wait even longer for a group it doesn’t affect me. If you get RDF you’ll end up with way fewer tanks as the role is generally quite unrewarding (not to speak of the “tank tax”) to play dungeons with, past getting groups faster.

It was a response to Jey writing “Not only do both exist, but the RDF ones tend to be more popular and longer lasting.” Obviously, past the point of RDf being introduced the game sub count started declining.

With RDF it’s basically being chained to one of the tables in the busy bar and only being able to talk to the 4 at my table. Without RDF I can talk with anyone I want in the bar, that wants to talk with me. With RDF it’s just a dice roll on who you talk to.

“Not only do both exist, but the RDF ones tend to be more popular and longer lasting.”
Did you forget you wrote this?

Only if you specifically queue with randoms. That’s still your choice. You can go to the bar with your friends or you can go alone. Same choice here.

And how is your spiel about WoW Officials population over time remotely related to that?

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???

You wrote it’s more popular, I just quoted you saying that…

What part of who you choose to socialise with is hard to grasp for you? If you want to talk to people in your party you start out by typing “/p”, that enables you to put sentences into what is known in game terms as “the party chat”. This allows you to socialise with people in your group.

If you don’t want to socialise with strangers you chose to queue up with, don’t do it. Hell, it’s not like people socialise in TBCC dungeons either, so you’re free to not do it.

Yes. About private servers. Context honey, it matters.

WotLK private servers with RDF are more popular than those without it. I spelled it out in it’s entirety for you since context appears a little hard.

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This is how RNG works :wink:

That’s not correct, at the end of Wrath there was more players than ever before (and after).
And player count did not start dropping until after launch of Cata.

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