The biggest problem with LFR

Because they watch tv. Nobody is going to kick them. The path of least resistance.

The problem is that people are kicked and then needing to get replaced. Which is fine for dps. But then it takes long, tank leaves too. Then you get a full raid leave…

because they don’t care. they’re fishing for loot or are just bored enough to join. but they’ve been told for years that LFR is a loot pinata so why bother making an effort

Thank Blizzard for always putting things to incentives people queueing there even if not interested in that particular content.

Why would you kick a DPS. If they do 0 dps you won’t even know they do low dps.
QED Ipso Facto Ergo.

It is a loot pinata when you make effort.

Someone just also said that the AFK’ers fast get kicked. And you don’t want them to be in there too. You want people who play.

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Ofc you do, if a person die in the first 30 seconds they are straight up throwing, and should be treated as afk.

If you wipe in LFR look at meter and vote kick everyone that have like close to zero contribution and you won’t regret it.

I never leave but most ppl did and on Alliance i spent 2h in lfr to kill Sylvana because wanted the last shard to get. Only because you had good luck with grp doesn’t mean everyone has it. And to leave grp i would wait at least 30 min to enter in again.
Best part of all some ppl who enter in that grp was asking is this wipe grp and leave it lol

so out of curiosity, what do you want? do you think blizz should nerf sylvanas?

I did not say i wanna nerf im just pointing out that if someone have luck with grp dont mean all have it like i write above. Maybe to put mehanics like is on nm idk so ppl start to actually do something and not just yolo it and when they come to 2 last bosses think it is easy like rest of it.

if they do 0 dps it means they r afk or lag and if they r afk can mess something in raid if get some mehanic to do. It is not problem on half tier when everyone r geared and one shot boss but problem is on release of first lfr wings because a lot ppl dont know what they doing and imagine on top of that afk players.

This thread is more comedic than I thought it would be.

There’s a good portion of people saying “but it’s only lfr, why should we try?”

Jesus wept

I think this is the problem with group-finder content. People feel no obligation towards their fellow raid members, there’s no obligation to perform at least to the best of your own ability. You might as well be playing with bots, as you are essentially anonymous in the mute crowd of “raiders”.

How can someone not enjoy raiding or m+ in a MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER ONLINE GAME? is it then even worth paying a subscription because its the core play to play with random people? Rlly those people are weird or even…

There should be no lfr difficulty at all. As dps you can 1button it and be fine, as healer you let the bad die and still 10man it.

The above mentioned mentality is not the problem, i can go like that and still be prolly top 5 dps, while watching movie. Everyone wins, my gear carries the raid, and i get some new mog, maybe.

Lfr is pretty much story mode, the easy raid is normal, you can clear that in wq gear.

This reminds me back in the first Starcraft
When you’d get people joining maps that were clearly marked as “Comp Stomp” or even “4 v 4 Comp”

And that person would turn on everyone because "IT’S NOT HOW YOU’RE MEANT TO PLAY THE GAEM"

As if players then would have an epiphany to only play ranked games after.

How about… I enjoy the game the way I want to play it?

If it wasn’t here, there’d hardly be any new raids; maybe 1 per expansion.
The percentage of raiders simply isn’t high enough to justify the production costs.

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Do I also need to pop full consumables and enter the in-game voice chat?

Had plenty of raids at vanilla, tbc,wotlk and pre 4.3 Cata (4.3 LFR was introduced). Not that I am advocating for the removal of LFR or anything.