Currently, they’re a 2 charge, off-GCD ability that heals the caster for 15% HP, even while silenced. They can be used at will, and you can use both charges immediately if needed - or save one for later.
Next patch, they will become a passive that triggers automatically upon reaching 35% HP.
This is extremely lame and will severely reduce the versatility of Mistweaver. We will now have to waste several GCDs to heal ourselves back up when we take colateral damage.
I hate this change.
do you realise how overpowered a non GCD heal is ? to a class with that much ramp and damage?
even with it just being 15% its not in line with other classes
take my hunter for example it has a 30% hp heal on GCD at 2minutes cd
the fact of the matter is , you cant be on both sides of the fence and do Everything, it reside within a role to heal or dps, it should never be off the GCD
I play Mistweaver, not Fistweaver. The “damage” part is irrelevant to me.
Remove it from Fistweaver for all I care.
So, your pure DPS, non-hybrid specialization has weaker healing tools than a healing specialization?
What even is this argument?
“do everything”?
Caster Mistweaver is the most one dimensional spec in the entire game.
The gameplay consists of staying at max range 24/7 and spamming heals every GCD because it has 0 team utility such as a purge, a ranged interrupt, ranged damage, and the only “ranged” CC we have shares DR with traps and polymorph.
its not the most one dimensional spec at all, its possible the highest mobility healer in the game on par with a resto druid but with 100% more damage even if you choose to not fist, a monk healer is required to use RoP and sweep to help the team land kills
you have multiple teleports and one of the biggest burst healing at your disposal
if you are choosing to not play MW even the slightliest bit in a fistweaving motion when its required what are you doing ?
a one dimensional healer is a holy pala or a Holy priest
MW is literally the definition of a healer with great damage
do you watch AWC ? if i was a MW monk i would be complaining about mana issues not the bloody utility
You can hardly use Leg Sweep in solo shuffle, which is the only bracket you play.
Making moves on the map is way too risky in shuffle, and results more often than not in getting punished for it.
The reward is often not worth the risk and the Mistweavers who learn to stop doing moves on the map and staying back to healbot immediately start climbing faster.
You have no idea what you’re talking about.
You know how the specialization works in theory, but you obviously have never played it first hand.
I’ve not experienced mana issues playing two Mistweavers at Duelist rating, and playing all brackets, in both seasons.
Your opinion is worthless because you speak only of theory, and you haven’t actually experienced anything yourself.
moaning for the sake of moaning, but isnt everything in PvP a risk, make a play
as you put it healbot if you want, but you have the utility to torpedo in and land long CC’s
i dont want to tell you how to play you clearly know how to play…
i just dont see this issue you have mentioned with the elixirs being THE issue for MW
Landing a Leg Sweep as a caster Mistweaver means leaving the safety of your pillar, which can lead to one of two things:
Not to mention, any healer will tell you that dampening & MS in solo shuffles simply do not allow healers to use their GCDs for anything that is not raw healing.
With all of this in mind, taking the risk to “make a play” is more often than not a mistake.
It’s not “THE issue”, but it is however a new issue that will appear next patch.
I want to discuss it because there is still time to undo that change before it hits live servers.
The elixir change is definitely a big nerf to an already struggling healer.
Both druid and hpally is far superior atm. Fistweaver doesn’t do enough damage or healing to be relevant atm.
This is also evident by looking at statistics… Monk is one of the lower played healer for a reason.
I don’t believe they become passive. I think it’s back to Legion state. Where you can use then manually or automatically when you drop HP in stun for example.
It is, sadly: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/please-revert-the-change-to-healing-elixir/1674642
On the PTR its currently 20% maximum health and activates when you go below 40% hp. Not sure if its different in PvP.
It should be the same. And if it is, it’s terrible compared to its current iteration.
Yea, I dont rly see much of a good part with it. If it were something the line of activating under 20-25% it would be less “extreme annoyance” and just be “annoyance” that you cant activate it yourself instead. But who knows what blizz is cooking 
Activating at 40% is literally dumb in both PvP and PvE.
Yeah. If they want it to be a passive, they need to go back to WoD - that was at least interesting and skill based.
They might change it who knows… first it didn’t work in stuns, now it does. Maybe we get a option to keep it as it is right now or choose the new version.
Triggering at 40% is a bit too early but others than that it’s a great thing to not die in a stun.
monk sucks because it has less cc than other healers.
We don’t really have less. Our CCs are actually quite decent. The only healer with “more” CCs than us is resto druid.
I’d argue disc has the least CCs out of all healer specs.
Song of Chi’ji is probably one of the hardest CC to land in the game. I don’t get why they took it away from us.
It’s casted, in melee range, requires the target to already be in a CC and you better use Zen Focus Tea to make sure you’re not getting interrupted.
How did they think it was too strong?
I mean… you literally have incap and stun for this. Not saying it’s super strong and/or super easy to land but it’s definitely easier to disrupt the enemy healer than doing so with a disc priest who has to crawl to the enemy healer and pray to everyone and everything to land this fear lol…
I find MW monk in a very good state right now. Definitely better than S1 and better than whole SL, so I can’t complain.
wait what no way they gonna make that possible in pvp