It became lame over the years for one reason:
Blizzard gave us peacemongers and softies as faction leaders, and neutered those seeking legitimate revenge.
Baine. Thrall. Jaina. Anduin. Saurfang.
Yeah right, no wonder nobody’s interested in the faction conflict anymore with those losers leading their respective factions.
The conflict between the Horde & Alliance had good reasons for existing.
Sylvanas’ character has been ruined now, but there was a lot of potential for conflict with the opposite faction. Genn and Tyrande wanted her dead.
Jaina is the worst of the bunch.
She just keeps forgiving the Horde. Every single time.
She’s like a naive young girl dating a serial cheater. She’s in tears for the tenth time of the year and he tells her: “I’m sorry, I promise it won’t happen again”, and she instantly believes him - only to be disappointed 3 again months later.
For real though, how many of her loved ones must be killed, how many cities must be nuked or burned before she starts behaving in a believable fashion?
BFA was such wasted potential.
Jaina should have remained thirsty for revenge, and she should have kept on killing as many Horde members as humanly possible, until she eventually met her end, entirely consumed by grief, loss, despair and anger.
Instead, she hugged Thrall and forgot about the two recent genocides.
The Horde died with Garrosh tbh, he was a fierce leader but then Blizz made that silly Panda expansion and made him the bad guy and completely destroyed his character. I think also it doesn’t really make sense for factions to hate each other now, after everything we’ve been through, BFA was just dumb, after defeating Legion you’d think there’d be peace and harmony.
everything starting going downhill ever since we invited the alliance to participate in a coup within our own city against our own warchief.
I mean seriously
did it really have to be Garrosh seeking sha powers for himself
why not someone else from the horde seeking to overthrow Garrosh and becoming a problem for both alliance and horde thus we end up raiding him in PANDARIA and not Orgrimmar.
They just excel at destroying iconic characters in this game
First Garrosh then his father then Varian then Voljin then Sylvanas
no wonder that faction war feel doesn’t exist anymore
Orc values is strength and Honor, Garrosh had no honor. i would argue he resembled the old horde which invaded Quel’thalas, burned villages, and killed blood elf children.
Due to Garrosh: the blood elves, darkspear, and even sylvanas was almost driven out.
I find the best leader was Vol’jin, but sadly they killed him too early. He stood for the horde without being an alliance puppet.
i agree, but things get boring with time if they remain the same. they tried “too hard” to depict the war in BFA and ended up murdering two zones, or maybe more. although i have to admit the battle of lordaeron was kinda fun.
dont worry next expansion they will start fighting again because of a silly reason
The faction war was a very bad narrative component attempting to give a reason for the faction related gameplay. Every expansion after Vanilla had the factions align and work together to get rid of the big bad:
TBC: Restarting the Sunwell and foiling Kiljaedan
WotLK: The Lich King from undeading Azeroth
Cata: Deathwing from cracking Azeroth in half
MoP: Garrosh from taking over everything and old godding Azeroth
WoD: Guldan from bringing the legion direct to Azeroth
Legion: Argus from destroying the entire universe, and also Sargeras
BFA: N’Zoth from old godding the Azeroth
SL: The Jailer from remaking the universe
They have tried to force it in multiple expansions and it never sticks. It is a flimsy excuse for an outdated game system that just needs to go away. Splitting your player base and giving them access to different stats will always lead eventually to an underpopulated faction and an over populated faction.
There was an interview that stated Stonetalon Garrosh was out of character and the product of miscommunication between the writers, he wasn’t really supposed to be honorable like that.
It was. Now it isn’t. I just want it gone. BfA completely killed that plotline for me. Merge the factions. Most of my friends play Alliance now due to all the free stuff they get and I’d like to play with them more.
To implement it you need a roughly equal balance between Alliance and Horde players. That does not exist for various reasons and won’t change this late in the support cycle
It has already been done to the death and lost all appearences of there being any stakes in it. Both factions are unkillable and will recover from anything. In fact they are not even suffering from any defeats as everything must be balanced. So how can you pretend that there is a war going on.
It now makes even less sense with another race on both sides that has 0 reason to kill each other.
The Horde players do not know what they want. Some want to play evil while others want to be good, honorable klingons. In a faction war Blizzard must take a side and anger the other Horde players who want their faction to be different.
The Alliance has less of a identity problem but they suddenly being the bad guy will also anger people as that is nit how the Alluance has been build up so far.
I can’t get over the fact that you look like Prince Charming.
While my toon is a neutral contractor, on the topic.
I would love to see faction war again, although I’m not sure how could Blizz manage not to blow it up again. Everything seems to flow towards peace, which is the sole opposite of the theme. There can’t be a winning faction, I think… but maybe I’m wrong. Although if it happens, that means the end of WoW.
So not likely.
Well said. Horde is always the bad guy, like they are the spawn of Hell throwing baddies at us nonstop, while the Alliance is the all time Saint. This is why I’d never side with either of them and would be factionless if that would be an option. Heck, I’d join Khadgar whatever the frick he’s doing!
Follow his story from when he was first introduced all the up to the end of Cata, and then see his story in MoP, it makes no sense that all of a sudden he is this crazy guy wanting to destroy everyone, especially with the trajectory he was on prior to that expansion.
This toon was made for the only purpose of being a forum avatar.
I tried to design it to look as closely as humanly possible to a stereotypical douchebag.
