Sure. She is, for the moment, with the Forsaken, in an important capacity, Caring for the Night Elf Forsaken. So much was already clear.
How is her being with Bolvar a step further, then?
Sure. She is, for the moment, with the Forsaken, in an important capacity, Caring for the Night Elf Forsaken. So much was already clear.
How is her being with Bolvar a step further, then?
She is promoted from being Lillians wingman to lone representative left there.
For all we know, Voss might die in the novel.
Only if you assume that this is supposed to be a meeting of racial representatives, which you have no basis for, as you admitted yourself. At most she is one of a group of HORDE representatives, including Valeera. Not āTHEā Forsaken representative.
Why would she be a Horde representative there?
Maybe because her personal skillset was requested there. Maybe because she was just available. Maybe Lilian had more important stuff to do with her people than going to Icecrown. Maybe the devs just didnāt care for a reason, but wanted to have her in place for whatever comes after. And yes, MAYBE it says something about her position in the Forsaken hierarchy. But itās not more certain than any other explanation.
I admit that Iām following on the usual trend about making this reunions be about including a figurehead from each race.
A stance that I feel has some credit to it, given Blizzard didnāt just pick a series of Horde and Alliance characters at random, and instead tried to have something resembling one protagonist for each race.
And I insist that given the treatment Calia receives in the events that lead to this situation, her appearing there does seem to go beyond some circumstancial event that had several Horde figures being handpicked.
Letās not forget, this is supposed to be a calling to spread a particular message. This requires the presence of those whose voice can actually be heard by the population.
Youāre looking at it too much from an in-world perspective. It would be nice, if the authors just chose whichever character they thought would be likely to go on this particular mission. But I donāt think they do, and Iād frankly be surprised if you did.
We know that they have some story prepared for Calia. It might be taking over the Forsaken, but if it isnāt they would still want to present her prominently where we can see them, so that they can setup whatever comes next for her. If Calia plays a pivotal role in an āevil Lightā plot, for example, theyād want us to have some emotional connection towards her, even if we havenāt read any novels, because any arc she goes through would fall flat otherwise. So yeah, I am not surprised they shoehorn her in on occasions like this. And possibly the prepatch, too.
Voss on the other hand doesnāt seem to have any huge role in the story of the near future, outside of Forsaken-only stuff. So Iām not surprised they didnāt care to put her there.
Does it make sense in-world? Probably not, but a good author could easily write an excuse why it does. I just donāt think it matters here.
Calia is still not confirmed as the Forsaken leader but Tyrande treats her as such talking about how is peace possible with her ākindā after the Burning of Teldrassilā¦but this is probably just her deep rage talking actually, considering she also says Lorāthemar is a coward just because he is a bit cautious so yeah, Tyrande treats Calia as the Forsaken leader but this could just be her deep rage and blind hatred talking actually
+1
yes
i love her so much. big, sexy, axe-wielding genki girl who just wants to fight and drink and be happy instead of saddest-orc who is sad due to having done a lot of genocides and boo hoo
more geyaārah pls
Bit off topic, but I agree on this.
She reminds me of her uncle Gaānar
Not really. She treats her as a Forsaken, which is stupid enough, but I donāt see where she treats her as a leader. She holds all undead responsible for Teldrassil.
No!
No no no!
Not Calia!
Is it Blizzardās blasted hobby to ruin the Forsaken?!
They already did that with the novel before the storm.
She was disguised at the gathering. Spineless little lightforged walking dead thing.
So they butchered one of the core figures of this game (Sylvanas) just to replace her with Calia? I thought they already said once that Calia wonāt lead the Forsaken (maybe Iām mistaken).
Anyway, this is starting to look very depressing. Theyāre trying to push redemption for Forsaken really bad. Whatever manā¦ done with the story in this game.
Blizzard is full of lies. Nothing new or unexpected here.
same here. They ruined the Forsaken for me.
Iām sure the cult of the Forgotten Shadow canāt wait to drop aside everything thatās defined them and embrace the light. Oh waitā¦
Iāll just pretend there was the least bit of info pointing in the direction of Calia being Forsaken leader here, instead of explaining again why all of your reactions are kinda prematureā¦ But this one here is an easy lore point:
ā¦that one doesnāt really hit. Even in the (yeah, I know, non-canon by now) RPG-books the Forgotten Shadow believed that a balance between Light and Shadow was needed, and that one should learn Light as well as Shadow, though undead are obviously closer to the latter.
And that was pretty much canonized in Legion, with the Natalie Seline story, which is the canon origin of the cult.
Soā¦ yeah, I donāt see those guys having a problem embracing the presence of the Light, and even learning about it, since their religion, different from the church, was actually always based on duality. They donāt have to drop any of their believes to do that.
Calia already have gather up Dark Rangers, and became at least an moral leader. Leader that helps currently forsakens to be close together in such dark days.
In other words Calia makes forsakens stronger -> Calia makes Horde stronger!
And it was Anduin, who managed to save Calia in the first placeā¦
I heard so many times, when Horde fans were calling their current leaders, as actually Alliance leaders. Well in that case Anduin is clearly the Horde leaderā¦
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