queue shuffle
hunter dies in first 5 seconds of game without pressing turtle
mage dies in first 5 seconds of game without pressing block
nobody ever tries to kick the rdruid cyclone on me
when they try to kite, they just backpeddle away really slowly
i then get giga flamed for letting people die because i dont trinket the first storm bolt of the game
average dps brain cannot fathom trinketing first gcd storm bolt is bad when they have blind clone bash kidney etc to do longer chains…
everyone who complains about 45 minute queues, you absolutely deserve it
average dps player is scum of the earth. change my mind
instead of trying to figure out what they can do to avoid losing they just blame healer. loser mentality
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It gets better as your climb.
I’m at 1950 / 2000 and it just doesn’t happen at all.
I sit CCs comfortably and I know I can count on my multi-rank 1 team mates and gladiator mount owners to react properly.
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I don’t believe that, I still saw the same stuff last season at 2.4 - 2.5
they had a bit better awareness yeah but dps players are just so entitled imo
I don’t know what to tell you. It’s just not been my experience.
Most of my games reach 70, 75% dampening.
last season 2.4 = normal season 1.8 tbh
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And the DPS experience:
Dps spent all CDs, healer decides to mind control 1 of the 2 dps and the teammate dies
Healer runs away from the dying teammate to chase an overextending teammate who is at 100%
Healer thinks it’s more important to heal himself at 80% hp instead of the dying teammate in front of him
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I did 4:20min one round today vs sv,mm,mw. it was the longest round ive ever done in shuffel but everyone just focus stop me rather than do something tbh so i do same to them, were just all disrupting each other till they run out of what to do and i kill their mw
its elo hell, i kill mw from both teams each round and go 6-0 on my elo hell sub
most of the games im just griefed by all and I lose my nerves on shuffle
or fotm boomys just spam clone on everything, spam clone on ur target when u sending a go, spam clone on their mum and spam clone on their dad, or my favorite random stun dr on every target in the game as everyone has some micropepe stun in this expansion that everyone keep spamming for 0 reason on random times and random targets
random hpalas also standing mid of map when theres affli and sp on other team
can i just add that i love shuffle alot and its fun to wait 40min 
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I play rsham 2nd day so basically still learning and got stuck at 1100/1200 mmr. That is real zoo. First I raged so much and got tilted and now on the 2nd day I am just excited how can these dps entertain me this time. And guess what, they always find a way. We have even SL gladiators out here. Sometimes I really laugh till the stomach ache. It is a bit annoying that there is almost always that one playa, who goes 0-6 thus healers go often 3-3 but still, just try to convert your rage into the irony and humour about all this shuffle games. That really helps. And now thinking about should I go back to my sp and try to push 2100, I recall these long qs and that I wont be able to stay aside of a fight and laught at my funny teammates ;(
I said the same thing in another topic XD
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hahaha man u know when u put havoc and about to send ruin out and theres that random clone on ur target u just released chaos bolts flying
that is the peak shuffle clone spam whats going on right now with these fotm boomys, just for this reason i found demo more enjoyable to play now because i cannot play destro if there is clone on every target of the game random times constantly
but they do it for targets that u kidney to send a secret tech too, its unreal how they just spam that clone on all
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Cyclone should be renamed to Trollolololol
Destro is real hard for me at least, i’m always the target. I spent all my CDs, teleport away, gateway, and healers just give up and do the aformentioned things. Got 1 win out of the last 12 rounds.
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i can livelord better on demo and i cant play destro in other than 3v3 where i can send gos and cleave without there being random clones but both specs are good with normal people in everything
I somehow doubt that it’s much more fun for most dps classes, especially the mid and low tier dps classes. The biggest difference is that there are a lot more specs and classes like rogue, lock, hunter etc who have 3 specs usually have one which is good while healers (except priest) have only one spec which means that you’ll have a miserable time if your spec is currently bad.
Shuffle would need an entire rework because in it’s completely unfun for healers by design. There are so many things which are wrong with this mode that I don’t even know where to start. Dampening is too much, Blizzard is neglecting healers (like the healer shortage is a self fulfilling prophecy at this point), 6 fast low quality rounds instead of 1 high quality round, dps players get to play with each other while healers 1v1 the other healer for 6 rounds, dumb matchmaking that tries to avoid mirror matches (aka screws weak healers even more because you get to play 6 rounds against an op healer all the time) and healers being generally lower than dps classes (last time I checked there wasn’t a single healer above 2,4k while 100 dps players were). Pretty sure that I’ve forgot something why I want to jump out of the window after playing Shuffle.
And in general Shuffle just boils down to a yolo game mode where raw damage and raw healing output is more important than everything else (hence why mistweaver is so broken in this mode while being underpowered in 2v2 for example) which results in no fun. It’s not hard to find people in LFG as a healer and therefore there’s absolutely no reason to play Shuffle unless the mode is giga inflated compared to the other brackets or if your class happens to be broken in Shuffle (and even that’s debatable).
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this 100% and with the pace of changes they kept implementing df since launch one as heal would have to play all of the classes by now in order to keep up with the wheel of fortune going around because it seem they are only able let game have 1 good and nerf all rest or neglect them
any nerfs at healers at this point is just terrible idea anyways, I would rather have disc having strong shields and dmg and mw being broken passive healer with good utility like it is, I would rework rshaman as no one cares of your healing rain you try forcing us blizzard and I would stop making changes on rdruid from pve perspective
hpaladins can go bubble hs, i can live without them. but soon they get rework and im sure it will be overdone and they can be the only healer in town like the girl in bar
im sure all the retris in town will also love the forbearance on everyone and their mum on the group they will absolute love play with hpaladins!
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My general experience with atleast disc priests is, waste double PS, hold dome until 5% hp and lose because u wasted 2 ps instead of using dome so u could get it back up again. Meanwhile during the 5% dome im still forced to wall to live. Trinket lifeswap ERROR 404 Not found. Its literally the same issue with 90% of discs.
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i had disc who use rapture on himself and spam shield on himself when his full health and nobody even looked at him and everyone focusing me as sv, went 3-3 cos of him and he did it to grief for reason unknown cos i dont know him but i waited 40min for the game
tbf on the same rsham also throw link at random location right after gate opens, so either there was something i dont know about or the healers just rly like to troll around sometimes
Throw in their obliviousness of being able to remove the mind games on you and you have the perfect metaslave disc priest
No, it doesn’t.
You’re aware that healers get thrown into games way higher than their MMR, yes?
I’ve played with/against people that are several hundred ratings above me. Like, 2k+ players.
Paladins still don’t divine shield.
Hunters still don’t turtle.
Warriors still leap and charge around a pillar and die.
Shadow priest at 2100 something that swapped back after I swapped him and so he dies and then he starts flaming ME? LIKE, WHY DID YOU SWAP BACK? He was stunned to oblivion so I decided to swap him and he just trinkets and swaps right after I swapped him.
Like I said.
From my personal experience, it doesn’t happen.
Maybe I’ve just been lucky, but I did play a few hundred games. I’d say the sample size is sufficient.
“People gotta die” - WoW PvP Dev motto