Anyone know why this is? I tend to get some wins in any other BG, but the Alliance can only win in Gilneas if the Horde is AFK or severely undergeared. In any other situation the Alliance gets roflstomped in this BG.
Tbh, Gilneas is a poorly designed BG and should be changed or removed.
We lose always because of one reason and one reason only its because people won’t F listen ever.
Every damn bg is alliance running around like ants when their nest is kicked over.
That or they try to be like characters from cinematics and run in the middle of 10 horde alone and after they are killed they cry and blame others from their stupidity.
On the rare occasion when people do listen or are controlled by Jim Henson style like the muppets they are we do actually win its just tiresome when you have to tell what to do every damn BG.
Alliance is also really thick headed and seem to not have the ability to do strategy change on a fly and if the first plan fails the crying and leaving starts.
I win a lot of bg’s when going alliance through mercenary mode.
Gilneas is for sure my favorite bg, along with AB.
Well my personal win/lose ratio puts alliance in favor for the ordinary BG’s, even in Battle for Gilneas. However in the epic ones horde have a significant lead. Especially in AV and Isle of Conquest.
I have a feeling the “Horde always wins” and “Alliance always wins” arguments often boils down to how much of an indivdual impact you can provide in each battleground.
If you are a DPS:er for example who provide excellent damage or control for your team, while doing the Bg’s objectives. This effort will be way more impactfull in BG’s with fewer participants compared to the epic BG’s with tons of participants.
So if we then flip the coin and say that one player are severly underperforming and runs around like a headless chicken, the impact of this player will also be more significant in smaler BG’s.
So if Alliance always lose, while you are present… Maybe this issue also sort of relate to personal performances. Sure sometimes you just end up in groups with no clue… But I mean if there’s noone trying to lead, then it’s probably fine if you personally take the reins and try to steer it up.
It’s like when you play a capture and hold Bg such as EotS; If you defend the Draenie ruins, you still see the whole battlefield and can report incoming even for Mage Tower. So in Battle for Gilneas, If you defend Waterworks, you can spot hordes riding for Lighthouse and report etc.
In BG’s such as AB and Deepwind Gorge, you can acctually also pay attention to spots with limited visibility by paying attention to your map and players who are present there. If someone are solo defending for example Mines and you see that person start to lose HP or get Sapped. You can personally report this instead of praying that the one present are going to etc.
What Alliance seem to lack are acctually commuications that don’t revolve around “Whaa Whaa alliance always lose” Baby Rage. So yeah, even if some of us got to overcompensate… It’s worth it in the long run I reckon.
Easy way to win BfG in a random bg, never go WW, just take lh and mine, all the mindless drones and bot’s that’s in the match won’t have the mental capacity to realize what happened.
The problem is just to get the even more mindless alliance players to actually not just go in to feed the horde
lol what?!
Alliance have the advantage. Both Lighthouse and Mine are equal, but horde have to swim to WW (unless they have dk) yet alliance route to WW has a conveniant stepping stone to hop across the water. Alliance can get to WW quicker than horde everytime.
It’s all relative, folks. Everywhere I look it’s “X wins here, Y wins there” - this is your experience - doesn’t translate to everyone.
As someone who uses the mercenary feature quite often, there are times it doesn’t seem to matter which side I’m on or which BG I get, it’s just losing streak after losing streak. Then there are times I’ll mostly win as a merc, and other times I’ll mostly lose as a merc (same when queuing normally).
What change the tactic our faction has used in that bg from the beginning it was but in game that’s preposterous.
And still 99 times out of 100 we will somehow lose ww and after that its crybaby time in the chat and constant leaving and replacing.
Yes it’s so hard to copy the Russians
Not really hard to copy their tactics or German tactics the hard part comes from alliance being so thick headed that when they have found some strategy they just seem to be unable to change strategy or tactics on a fly most alliance seem to act like bots or “heroes” and try to take whole horde 1 v 40 like in cinematic and then cry when their idiocy wont work.
Whats up with your German Alliance, play there and enjoy the 100% losing streak all the time
Gilneas is blatantly Horde biased. They are actually always earlier at the flag at WW, which means they can set up their defense before the Alliance arrives.
This BG is a guaranteed Horde win. I usually just give up at the start because I know it’s a loss anyway. I don’t have that in any other BG. I shouldn’t have to mention that, unlike in AB and EotS, a comeback is not really possible in this BG.
Just remove it from the game tbh!
If horde are making it to WW quicker from the start of the BG then maybe you could try mounting up?
As I said unless the horde have an abudance of classes with abilites that let them jump over or walk on the water then alliance will always beat them too it.
You need to keep not responding to ragers and insults and ideally keep Spotting Incs or call out crucial information even if no one responds to it or people insult you for it in the good hope that if atleast one person might respond once, see the value of the playstyle and start doing it themselves as well
It wasnt much different for Horde a few expacs back
I never reply to those whining lets just lose morons they go automatically to my poop list and i never see them again.
Its just annoying that you for some reason have to explain what to do to people especially if the BG is warsong gulch. Sometimes i really wonder how do some people that i encounter in bg’s function in their day to day life.
Do you think I am not doing just that? The Horde is there a second or two earlier than the Alliance. What you are saying is just not true, and not what I have experienced.
At least allow us to block BGs again. Then I can just block Alliance fail BGs like this one!
Sorry but I just don’t see that - Alliance has the easier passage to WW than Horde, whichever way Horde goes to WW they have to cross water without a bridge.
You are cutting across the mound to the right of the Ally starting point and not heading towards LH and then turning right?
The mountain path are fairly much quicker thou. i’m always a bit surprised when horde take the “long way” taking a dip in water on the way to WW. Not that i mind since it gives me plenty of time to deal damage to them. However it seem like Horde have started to charge LH instead of WW which makes some alliance fall of their chair in surprise. ![:open_mouth:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/open_mouth.png?v=6" ":open_mouth:")
Hard agree on that one.